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Battlebots and Robot Wars are easily better


This had a chance to be really good but of course it had to be a reality show.
First off the contestants themselves have no idea how to maneuver and control the robots and it seems like luck (or scripting) decides the fights since they all punch away and dont protect their midsection. It would have been better if they had trained in controling these robots for months before actually fighting. Which brings me to my second point in that I never see the robo techs actually working on the robot which is not surprising since most of them are computer engineers and probably haven't built anything robotic in their lives (except for the robo professor that lost in the first fight and Paulo from Team Commander), which leads me to believe that Setrakian and his people do all the repairs. In that case why even have the robo techs. What made Battlebots and Robot Wars special was the ingenunity necessary to create those robots, the builders were celebrated as well as the robots. This is nothing more than another dime a dozen reality show with dumb pyrotechnics and Chris Jericho looking for more cash, does WWE not pay that well anymore?

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Agreed! I believe I read somewhere that either Robot Wars or Battlebots was coming back, but I'm not 100% sure on that. They could have been referring to this show.

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Its mentioned in a post somewhere here. James Cameron and something called Robogeddon.

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Agreed, Robot Wars and Battlebots are so much better than RCL. RCL being a reality show focuses too much on the 'stars' and not enough on the actual combat, most of which seems to be more or less the same thing. Wild and delayed punches from inexperienced pilots, sure some of them might be real life engineers but none of them really have any expertise with these machines, where as the people that piloted the machines in Robot Wars and Battlebots actually built their own machines and knew them inside out. More importantly, the robots were the stars on those shows, everyone tuned in to see the machines and a good 45 minutes of fighting with maybe 15 minutes of interviews instead of 45 minutes of crap you don't care about and maybe, maybe 15 minutes of fighting.

Also, most of the time the fights on RW & BB where unpredictable. There were occasions where you knew a certain robot was going to get utterly squashed. On the flip side RCL is so predictable it could almost be scripted. Hell the announcer and host practically tell you what's about to happen in the tease right before the advert break.

I'll continue to watch RCL while it's on as it is a program that features robotic engineering but I can't see this going beyond it's first season where as the success of Robot Wars and Battlebots speaks for itself and I'd happily watch reruns and clips on youtube.

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ok so team made robots made robot wars and battle bots better undoubtedly but apart from that there many many matches where little happened look at some of the matches linked here that are example of how good RW and BB was http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1251832

alot of nothing happening, they also relied heavily on a overly excitable commentator

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instead of 45 minutes of crap you don't care about and maybe, maybe 15 minutes of fighting.

More like 45 minutes of crap you don't care about and maybe, maybe 6 minutes of fighting.

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Why someone doesn't try to revive one of the other 2 I'll never get

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they have tried just can't get tv/advertisers to back em, TV is looking for something new and here it is.

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This had a chance to be really good but of course it had to be a reality show...What made Battlebots and Robot Wars special was the ingenunity necessary to create those robots, the builders were celebrated as well as the robots.


Well, the problem with your statement is that you're looking at the wrong thing. Yes, this show is not as good as Robot Wars. But, if you read "Gearheads," by Brad Stone, you'll discover that:

- The UK Robot Wars was at least as much a reality show/game show as RCL.
- The UK Robot Wars also had pit crews to help get the robots ready - and this was very necessary, as in the first season most of the robots didn't work.

Further, the robots are built by Mark Setrakian, himself a Robot Wars competitor from the earliest days of Robot Wars, and he gets quite a lot of attention.

No, the problem isn't the fact that it's a reality show - in fact, the focus should be on the people, which is where RCL has it - it's that it's a badly put together reality show.

As Ridley Scott once said in the commentary for Gladiator, it's not what you see that matters, but what you think you see. In Robot Wars, you think you see a well-organized tournament league. But, it wasn't - it was very much a game show, where they would stop or hold up matches to fix lighting during filming, and send in pit crews to help repair robots behind the scenes. Even the robots were carefully selected by the production company - you had to submit a robot design for approval before you would be allowed to compete.

But, Robot Wars was really well put-together, so just watching it you'd never realize anything I just wrote was happening in the background. Through careful production, they created the illusion of a tournament league, and they did it so well that they outshone Battlebots - which actually was a legitimate tournament and not a game show - by several orders of magnitude.

Robot Combat League fails in that it has all of the elements it needs to be a really great presentation, but it just doesn't put them together properly. It's biggest problem is pacing - the illusion it needs to create is the same as Robot Wars, where you've got a boxing league with selected heats and semifinals. However, particularly when they roll the closing credits during the beginning of a fight, they don't create that illusion. The sense of time in the show being the same as time outside the show is shattered. And once those cracks show, all the others become apparent as well.

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Robot Wars was awesome,I kinda wish that show was still on the air







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