Really enjoyed this, kept me interested until the end credits. Good acting, good story, I think they could have gone into more detail about the killer though, more background etc.
Overall a solid 7 though!
I disagree, this movie had me screaming in agony wanting to turn it off but my girlfriend forced me to watch the whole thing since she wanted to see how it ended.
It was just plain stupid.
I found the premise of the poker night, where veterans share their stories and experiences that would later help the guy out of a tricky situation interesting. To bad all those stories basically just showed what lousy cops they all are and there was literally nothing to learn from them:
- A cop fails to arrest a guy working in a video store but instead ends up loosing his leg while killing the suspect. Good job there sir!
- A cop gets lucky and stumbles across a bunch of dead bodies, and kills the guy entering the room instead of arresting him to get some answers. Wow - thats impressive! Thank god i showed up for poker night for that one!
- A cop walks a suspect through a crime scene, which makes the suspect so emotional he confesses. Wow..i bet nobody ever though about that one, clearly takes 43 years of experience to learn such a trick!
- A cop has 3 snipers watching him, to bad ALL THREE had other things to do but to watch the guy they were supposed to protect. He buys himself time by asking for a kiss. I dont even know what to say about that one.
And then we have Mr Victim himself, who when the killer is back in the house decides NOT to call 911 with the phone HE IS HOLDING IN HIS HAND but calls someone else who doesn't answer (his mom? Because he is scared?) and then proceeds to take a few minutes to investigate the killers dark room - how about GETTING OUT OF THE HOUSE AND CALL FOR BACKUP!?
Also when he is being interviewed in prison, obviously the girl is still in a coma or he wouldnt be in prison - but how would he then be able to tell the reporter she was in a coma for 3 months? Huh? What?
How can people even write such crap and how can people give this positive reviews??
I agree the movie was dumb. Also the movie really seemed like the message was DON'T GO ANYWHERE WITHOUT BACKUP.
1. As you said the guy failed to arrest the suspect and ended up killing him instead. Had he gone in with backup or had backup waiting near the door, it wouldn't have happened.
2. Again if the guy had backup this more than likely wouldn't have happened. One could have waited on the roof and the other could have gone in. Bad guy might still have got shot but less chance of it happening.
3. Again if the cop had backup that kid wouldn't have broken the cops jaw and cop wouldn't have needed stitches as well.
4. This one just seems dumb, not because of what the guy did (he did whatever he could to buy time and stay alive) but they clearly show a couple guys in a van listening to the wire, so they would have heard him say the go word and yet did nothing? Seems like a bit of a poorly written scene really.
5. The old guy who finds where the guy and girl are being held and doesn't have any freaking backup and what happens? HE GETS FREAKING KILLED. Same with the guy who went to drop off the money, had he had backup none of this would have happened, they would have tailed the guy back to his house and would have saved everyone.
Yeah god knows who he was calling. Was the movie actually trying to say he called 911 but no one was picking up? The f#ck movie? Also last time I checked I'm pretty sure you can trace HOME PHONES instantly, so if said bad guy used a home phone to ring 911 then the cops should have had his exact location. But this is again another instance where if the guy hadn't gone out alone (when he was drunk too) none of this would have happened.
I'm guessing because he had only been in prison for 3 months.
I have to agree. Great idea terrible execution.
To slightly nitpick, the girl's dad is the only one I can understand not showing up with backup. He wasn't going as a cop, he was following the killer's orders were to save his daughter.
But everything else... I totally agree with.
The stories the detective recalls have practically nothing to do with what's happening.
They could just be contrived to the end and call it a day.
The dumbest one had to be the 3 snipers who completely ignore the guy who could be killed...
For crying out loud, there were people in a van listening and none of them bothered trying to see why nobody helps him?
And did Jeter really need to think of everything just to figure out it's cause he killed the mentor? Really?
As for the movie itself, so many absurd holes in it... The usual cliche about the practically immortal killer who got stabbed, shot and what not during this movie yet constantly manages to escape handcuffs with no explanation.
How exactly did the handcuffed killer escape without any of the cops noticing him?
Okay, let's assume there's a secret room or something. Fine.
He was still handcuffed and more importantly bleeding. How come there wasn't any blood left in the scene? The reporter clearly said people assume he made the whole thing up.
Yet he can give a description of the guy and his blood is at the scene...
And what happened to all his injuries? Did they assume he did it to himself? How about the scars and tears of his skin from the super glue? He was 100% healed in prison.
I'm not even talking about so many things that were unbelievable like the detective not realizing the gun was superglued?
Really? How can you not notice that? Are you telling me he was running from the house with the girl on his back constantly opening doors and such and never moving the gun an inch?
How exactly did the killer push the girls father into the room without the girl seeing him? She was looking at the door directly.
How come the detective didn't see the killer when he shot Ron Pearlman? He was looking straight at the door. Not to mention you can see stairs behind it
I'm all for a little suspension of disbelief but this movie has way too much of it.
Yeah the girls father was the only one where it makes sense he wouldn't bring backup. His story he told was about how when he had backup they didn't help him, so out of all the cops he was the one most likely not to bring back up.
Exactly. In saying that though what were the snipers there for? So when he said the go word they would what shoot the suspect and kill him? Aren't cops suppose to you know arrest the guy first. The plan seemed like they just went out there to kill the suspect not arrest him.
Yeah as soon as the guy mentioned a mentor and then we got to see Jeters memory and how he killed a guy, I was like "Yup he killed the mentor". The guy was there for weeks and it took him that long to figure out, admittly it was a stressful time but the slues were all there.
Yeah that was completely dumb. I could understand the stabbing but then getting shot and still being able to escape. It just gets beyond absurd.
Exactly. There would have been plenty of evidence namely blood evidence to show that someone else had been at the scene.
I'm guessing so.
I was surprised as hell he picked up the gun. What the hell was he thinking, after all the crap the guy did to him, he just picks up a convient gun sitting on the stairs. Also he doesn't feel the glue on there either? Even in a panic you notice a slimy handle.
It's even more dumb when you consider Jeter knew the guy had freaking cameras set up (he saw them earlier in the movie) and what he just thought the guy wouldn't check them? That he wouldn't notice Jeter had escaped and a big f#ck off hole in the wall.
It was an entertaining movie but a lot of entertainment for me was lost because it had a lot more potential but ended up relying on dumb movie cliches.
The rookie did mention at the start after he was captured that he made a few mistakes. One of it was not calling for backup.
So he did learn something, although belatedly. haha :D
The movie itself was actually pretty well done, in terms of the tension and pace.
But i wish when the veterans were sharing stories with the rookie, the stories actually help in his survival. And then the rookie would used it in his own survival.
And not just about not giving up or to trust his instincts.
What's funny about the backup thing is, none of them mentioned in their stories about the importance of calling for backup if they are alone.
Just watched this movie. There were quite a few plot holes as you have mentioned. This is the only movie with so many holes that I enjoyed. Great acting and pacing combined with silly writing. What a weird combo.
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They're not plot holes, just character inconsistencies. The plot really isn't complex enough to have holes in it. What actually happens along the plot line makes relative sense. Just because something is improbable doesn't make it a hole, unless that improbable thing goes on to contradict the movie's direction, and I don't think that happens here.
Instead, the whole thing just reeks of being in it for the plot twists. But they're not really clever or meaningful enough to be successful.
Yeah.
shareI enjoy it, not fan of the poker night stories. Most of them are really about bad cop procedure.
But I'm happy the killer wasn't a poker night test. It ended really well.