trying to justify sea wold holding animals captive bc you think former trainers have an axe to grind... GET REAL. it doesn't matter and you are missing the point. are you all that dense to not realize how messed up this is. stop fact checking and listen to your heart. even without this movie its obvious how depressing this all is.
shareI remember the last time I will ever go to Sea World, I sat watching the killer whale show and felt overcome with the feeling of wrongness. These majestic animals are being forced to live in a jail. I don't care how "nice" it is. It is a jail. They are intelligent creatures and they should not be confined to tanks. Every last one should be returned to the wild or as close to the wild as possible.
shareAll captive wild animals are in jail…but Sea World looks more like a concentration camp to me. No regular jail for humans makes its inmates perform tricks in front of an audience to make money. This really reminds me of Nazi camps where inmates were forced to perform music at parties or work as prostitutes.
I'm not a peta-kind of animal activist. I'm not opposed to eating meat. I think being killed and eaten is part of the natural cycle of life. Animals kill and eat each other. But they don't lock up other animals and force them to perform tricks. To me, that's more cruel than killing.
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> But they don't lock up other animals and force them to perform tricks.
Besides the forced tricks, how is most factory farming that different? In these farms, we inject them with antibiotics and raise them on the lowest quality resources in many cases. Remove babies from their mothers. Never offer any stimulation. And the killing isn't all that fun either. The actual death might come a lot sooner, but that doesn't make it any less painful for that short duration.
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The Sea World response which I read on their website was appalling. Continuing to try and deflect and spin the circumstances around Tilikum. That they had no idea he was capable of hurting anyone, and he had nothing to do with any of the deaths of the other 2 victims. The bottom line is he was kidnapped from the Ocean when he was 2 years old and the experiences he had when he was young in Sealand shaped a dark side to his personality. Unless SeaWorld thinks that locking him in a dark room that is too small for him with other whales, that were physically hurting him would have no negative impact on him going forward. SeaWorld did not directly have anything to do with that, but they bought him and started using him for breeding.
sharemy friend went to seaworld about a year ago and she specifically asked them about tilikum. she told me that he is basically living in a crate. a walled off pool with about 2 ft on either side of him. i have no facts to back this up but this is what i've heard through the telephone game.
shareTillikum spends most of his time in the Dine With Shamu pool or the covered pool (photo below), sometimes he's with Trua (his grandson) who is the only other whale he has had any regular contact with since 2010.
Here's a video of his and Trua "playing" (ie, floating aimlessly). Excuse the terrible muisc, but there's a good shot of the entire tank right at the end.
Apart from the main show tank, this is the only other tank in the whole facility that is deeper than he is long. Disgusting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Hq6z6Xv6XY
Though your friend may be getting confused with the medical tank, which is shown to the bottom right of this photo (with Tilikum in it). It's not completely walled off as you can see.
http://media.nola.com/pets_impact/photo/killer-whale-pooljpg-182fe60f9cf39c13_large.jpg
Here's a photo of the whole tank complex. As you can see from the video, it's not nearly big enough for the whales.
https://theorcaproject.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/seaworld-shamu-stadium-aerial.jpg
And what about Lolita? This whale has been held in a tiny tank for decades. I really hope they can get her out of there--the government is stalling--dragging out the case. Absolutely disgusting the greed of humans.
Yes animals eat others to survive but humans never had to eat meat. It was always a choice--and thanks to that choice--middle eastern lions: extinct.
Buffalo of the North American plains: almost extinct.
Wolves: extinct in many places and hunted down mercilessly.
Lions in Africa also face death if they venture near domesticated herds.
Orca whales in captivity are just the tip of a very large ice berg, but at least people are paying attention. Too bad it took human deaths and Tilikum being driven mad to get that attention.
Sure, eating meat for humans was always a choice. Often a choice of survival or dying. Our species still exists because survival is in our genes and not ethics, morals or philosophy. Primal human beings couldn't just go to a health food store and stock up on tofu, seitan, almond milk and cheese substitute. They had to rely on what they could get their hands on.
By the way, the North American buffalo is far from being "almost extinct", and the wolf is on the rebound in Europe. Germany is struggling to adapt to the new situation. Or, rather, the wolves are struggling to adapt to co-existing with humans in dense areas. They usually avoid humans, they don't fit their prey pattern, but now wolves have been spotted in city parks.
You may cross-examine.
Don't try to sort out the facts, just listen to your heart? The op's post is the perfect distillation of my problem with this film and its supporters. Same issue I have with most partisans who try to sell me on their pov.
shareThe people who got sacked etc and work/worked in the industry have to have a reason to slag off their industry and what they do for a job (the job they still do) this usually is the previous employer
shareIt's no better than slavery. I thought the film would end with the closure of all these hell holes, one day.
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