Deadline: Why Disney Channel Canceled the Series & Will Netflix Save It? - Girl Meets World (2014) Discussion

[–] crotchrocket 7 years ago

They directed Disney Channel shows before anyone ever thought GMW would be a thing.

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[–] Disney15 7 years ago

No , both Ben and Danielle's first directing job was Girl Meets World

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[–] crotchrocket 7 years ago

Ben directed the Shake it Up pilot which predates anyone even talking about GMW by about three years.

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[–] Disney15 7 years ago

Ben guest starred in an episode of Shake It Up, but he never directed an episode.

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[–] lisac_2829 7 years ago

That's not true. I don't know about Danielle, but Ben had done some directing way before GMW ever happened. He even directed at least one episode of BMW. Please research.

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[–] Disney15 7 years ago

I did research right here on IMDB. Ben and Danielle have had no directing credits besides GMW

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[–] crotchrocket 7 years ago

I did research right here on IMDB.

I once convinced IMDb that Meets World of Terror 3 was going to feature the Angry Video Game Nerd and Nostalgia Critic as "General N. Bison" so you might want to recheck that

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[–] cTitus924 7 years ago

uh?

 Women, can't live with em; So stuff your mother and live with that.(Bullet Tooth 504)

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[–] crotchrocket 7 years ago

They're characters from some YouTube comedy series. They are famous since they had been around since the very early days of YouTube in 2006. Since they drop a lot of *beep* bombs there is no way they can be on a Disney Channel series as guest stars.

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[–] Gigi_Marie 7 years ago

Disney15 is correct. According to this article, GMW was Ben's first directorial attempt. That's coming from Ben himself: http://mashable.com/2014/09/12/ben-savage-boy-meets-world-girl-meets-world-director/#qkwuDgA1Gsqa

What the hell is a Stiles?

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[–] Stokes83 7 years ago

That's a pretty good write up on what went wrong. It just appealed to an older age group than what Disney targets. I guess crotchrocket was right they killed the show catering to us.

Phill Lewis still hangs around the channel and directs for Disney so it's not surprising Ben and Danielle would explore that.

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[–] Nike316 7 years ago

This article says the reason it was canceled was because younger viewers (Disney Channel's target audience) did not find it relevant enough.

If true, then i'm not surprised. The kids didn't offer much outside of friendship.

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[–] crotchrocket 7 years ago

Disney Channel's ratings are plummeting but Nickelodeon's ratings are rising. Most of their shows are where GMW was a year ago, or better. At least three shows, Thundermans and both the Dan Schneider shows, Henry Danger and Game Shakers, got four seasons and 100 episodes guaranteed. Game Shakers got a fourth season renewal in the middle of its second season. School of Rock got a third season before the second season even premiered. Before that Bella and the Bulldogs was canceled after two seasons and 100 Things to do Before High School got canceled after just one. Even though both of those shows had been doing better than virtually any Disney Channel series right now.

So what looks like the network that knows its audience better now?

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[–] TheFirstStormAndTheLast 7 years ago

Proof that it was a terrible idea to begin with. Not the spin off. This pretty much proved without a doubt that the spin off was a good idea. It just needed to focus on the entire family and not the boring and unrealistic over dramatic children. It should've never been on Disney either. Talk about a joke of a network.

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[–] crotchrocket 7 years ago

Talk about a joke of a network.

This is exactly why it was such a bad idea. Maybe the worst idea Disney Channel's ever had. Really, here. Nobody was satisfied. The kids weren't interested and might assume the other new shows or the current shows were focusing on the same direction GMW was taking due to all the praise GMW was getting (and really did it really deserve all those rewards or was that nostalgia circle-jerking?). The adults and fans from Boy lost interest and started blaming the network and just assumed the other shows were crap. Or they actually DID watch the shows but didn't like them, and then bad word of mouth started to spread. It sounds like GMW for all its good intentions actually helped destroy the network.

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[–] crotchrocket 7 years ago

Also this whole article smacks of what can only be called favoritism and snowflake fawning. Do you think Deadline ran an article when Best Friends Whenever was canceled? Or when Jessie or Good Luck Charlie ran their last episodes even though they went 101 and 100 episodes respectively? A whole bunch of websites ran specials when That's So Raven went that long when the field was narrow and that show was actually unique, but Girl Meets World got heaped extra attention just because of the nostalgia factor but not only did that nostalgia fail to pay the bills but it might have hurt the network in the long run. The proof is right there in the article.

We all know at least some older audiences tuned out after they got tired of how kid-focused it was, but now we've got proof that the kid audience tuned out because it wasn't "relevant" enough. Well how does that effect the rest of the network? Deadline ain't gonna cover Jessie or Liv and Maddie, that's for sure. None of the older people are going to care about those shows, as has been proved time and time again with you people talking about how much those other shows suck. Do you think that's helpful to the network? And now we have the actual kid viewers, they're not thinking GMW is relevant enough to them. Do you think it's going to make them think the other shows were relevant too?

Gee maybe this is why Disney Channel had a massive dropoff in ratings right in the middle of GMW's second season. Do you think GMW just suffered along with the rest of the network? I think it's more likely GMW took the rest of the network down with it.

Even I thought this was a crazy theory even though in my gut I had very strong suspicion to believe this was true. Too many coincidences otherwise, too much negative reaction to how GMW failed to develop along the nostalgia to convince me otherwise. Now I feel like I have proof. The great Crotch Rocket feels vindicated about the deadly sins the show and the fanbase (yes you) committed, but in a rare show of humility Crotch Rocket will more humbly submit that poor planning and too much nostalgia focus was to blame (especially with idiots like Deadline pumping the nostalgia angle).

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[–] Stokes83 7 years ago

6-11 year old kids aren't hanging on IMDB or blogs so what older fans say about the network is completely irrelevant.

You also can't blame GMW for the collapse of 6 other shows including one with one of the bigger child stars in the industry.

What Nick has done better at is create gender neutral shows so you have a larger audience to appeal to. Disney is still in HM, ICarly mode and that kind of popularity is dead. They've catered exclusively to girls and think that's why Nick is lapping in today's limited market.

You bring up some fair points when it's along the lines of that catering a show to adults on kid's network was just doomed to fail.

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[–] monstermayhem32 7 years ago

If netflix gives it a shot, it can allow more mature storylines.

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[–] Stokes83 7 years ago

I don't see it happening. Sabrina has her music, Rowan is looking towards the big screen, Disney can offer Ben, Danielle directing gigs. I doubt Netflix will be able to buy out the show and convince the actors this is worth continuing.

It was a great idea but turning a family sitcom into a children's show proved to be a little difficult than they could handle.

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[–] sweetadri06 7 years ago

Im not surprised it was cancelled, they tried to satisfy both kids and fans of the old show and ended up doing neither.. Both audiences tuned out.
The real issue is that BMW was never a kids show, it was a family sitcom. Disney was not the right channel or demographic to reboot the show on.

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[–] lisac_2829 7 years ago

The real issue is that BMW was never a kids show, it was a family sitcom. Disney was not the right channel or demographic to reboot the show on.

^^^^^

This. Spot on. This is what I have been saying the whole time. The other part to this is that people really wanted BMW 2.0. (I personally didn't care either way). But I know a lot of people loved BMW and wanted to just see the old cast. GMW was never really going to work in reality. People just wanted to see the cast of BMW. They were never really interested in the kids. If they couldn't have an "adult" BMW show then they should have just scrapped the whole idea. No one was ever really going to warm up to Riley and her friends. I just don't think it was going to happen. I sort of disagree that they wanted a family show. They didn't want a family show - they just wanted BMW 2.0. They wanted to see the BMW cast as adults and that's all.

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[–] crotchrocket 7 years ago

That's why GMW was just a bad idea by the network.

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[–] cTitus924 7 years ago

this is a fantasy show! as good as it is makes me wonder if Riley
was imagining all the events that took place from a padded cell?

It's like she went down the rabbit hole midway through season 2

 Women, can't live with em; So stuff your mother and live with that.(Bullet Tooth 504)

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[–] FangsMcWolf 7 years ago

reachrob-1 (Wed Jan 18 2017 14:30:19)
I don't think that Netflix will save this show at all. Netflix has a lot of show including Fuller House, Orange is the New Black and a couple of other shows as well. The chances of that happend is not very good.

What's your point? You think that Netflix has a full schedule and can't find a time slot to add something else? If that's the case, have a little bit of info for you, there are no time slots.

This is a case of supply and demand. The demand is there, so if it's reasonably possible to do it, they most likely will. I say "reasonably possible" because, obviously, they would have to negotiate contracts, cost, etc. If it turns out to be cost prohibitive, then obviously, it won't happen. If Disney has a say in it and decides it doesn't want to lease out the rights for more episodes to be made, then it won't happen. I know that Jacobs is looking for a way to continue the show, so I doubt he would be reluctant to hear any offers. As for the cast, if there is new life to the show, with potential for growth, I'm sure they would be on board for that. If Blanchard and Carpenter are hoping to expand their career, continuing the series on a new network could benefit them. They would be more likely to make new connections, which in turn can open doors to roles in movies or other shows.

The more known their names become, especially if they are seen as talented actresses, the better chances of expanding their careers and becoming someone like Shailene Woodley. Her most well known role is (was) as a girl named Amy in The Secret Life of the American Teenager. Now she's been in several movies, earning a name for herself and her talent is getting more noticed. I'm not saying that the show is responsible for her success, but she undoubtedly benefited from it and that assisted her with the roles she has gotten. Either because her acting in the show proved to be a selling point, or people she met due to the show, word of mouth, references, etc.

So, if Netflix picks up the show (or Freeform, etc), then more mature topics could be introduced and give them a chance to show their talents in how they portray the characters handling those situations. As it is, they have shown they can perform the roles of kids. They need to be able to show they can perform more mature roles, for their benefit. (Our benefit too, of course, as we would get to see the GMW story continue.)

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[–] crotchrocket 7 years ago

The demand is there

Really? Your understanding of supply/demand economics is about as good as most Republicans. In that you think that if you say "supply and demand economics" enough you can fool most people in to thinking you understand it when you very obviously don't (and then run the country into the ground for decades and decades).

You need to look at the following link:

https://twitter.com/nickandmore/status/821552966704435202

A crappy family movie from two or three years ago beat Girl Meets World. Plus reruns of old shows on crappier time slots did almost as good.

It's time to get woke. THE DEMAND ISN'T THERE.

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[–] FangsMcWolf 7 years ago

crotchrocket (Wed Jan 18 2017 19:01:57)
It's time to get woke. THE DEMAND ISN'T THERE.

First, I tend to lean towards Democrat, not Republican. Second, I know what supply/demand is and it means more than just what you think it means. I've taken and passed economics, thank you.

When I called Netflix recently about an issue, one of the things I mentioned was about the idea of Netflix picking up the show. The guy I was speaking with mentioned that they had been getting a respectable number of similar requests. As in, a lot of requests, by different people (ie, different accounts). When I say that 'they' had been getting requests, I mean besides just that one representative that I was speaking too. No matter how you try to spin it to make it sound like there's no demand, it doesn't fly. I also recall reading that Jacobs is looking for someone else to pick up the show, because of the amount of interest there is (from fans) for the show to continue.

Trust me, the demand IS there. So, don't think of me as a weak minded fool that you can talk your bullcrap to and expect me to blindly believe it over my own knowledge and common sense.

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[–] crotchrocket 7 years ago

First, I tend to lean towards Democrat

So you barely understand the words "supply" and "demand" when used in a sentence together then?

BTW when you were looking at the ballot for either Hillary or Trump I bet you were dumb enough to vote for Bernie. You certainly look dumb enough.

Second, I know what supply/demand is and it means more than just what you think it means.

So you're a mind reader now?

I've taken and passed economics, thank you.

From DeVry?

When I called Netflix recently about an issue

Oh so you're also a news source with enough reputation that Netflix is going to give you more than just a standard PR friendly answer?

Is your last name Drudge?

The guy I was speaking with mentioned that they had been getting a respectable number of similar requests.

And this guy you spoke to is in charge of new show acquisitions right?

As in, a lot of requests, by different people (ie, different accounts).

And by "a lot" you mean millions and not just hundreds or dozens right?

When I say that 'they' had been getting requests, I mean besides just that one representative that I was speaking too.

Yeah probably a whole two!

No matter how you try to spin it to make it sound like there's no demand, it doesn't fly.

Yeah because when a few dozen angry people who waste their time on IMDb call Netflix it represents a large TV audience!

don't think of me as a weak minded fool

But that's very easy to do because you really are a dumb as you look!

that you can talk your bullcrap to and expect me to blindly believe it over my own knowledge and common sense.

But my bullcrap is based on actual real common sense and your knowledge and "common sense" is based on delusions bought from a diploma mill on a degree that isn't even worth the paper it's printed on. Maybe as toilet paper?

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[–] FangsMcWolf 7 years ago

You see, you haven't provided anything except for failed attempts at insulting me and my looks. You are nothing but a troll and your troll powers have no affect on me. Good try, but not phasing me a bit. All you're doing is providing that you are full of crap and have no real clue to what you're talking about.

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[–] crotchrocket 7 years ago

Can you try being more coherent and actually get to a point? The troll posts I made are more clear than this. Plus your research is about as well done as Chris Bores's/the Irate Gamer's (Google it if you don't get it).

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