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Girl Meets a Christmas Maya Lowest rated episode


Rating: 1.2

GMW during season 2 was a ratings power house consistently doing above a 2.0 with 1 exception. But it was easy to see ratings tanking. Season 3 has only seen a few episodes break a 2.0. Girl meets Hollyworld did a dismal 1.21 and things get worse with this episode, 1.2. This show is done. Now Rowan can tweet about social injustice horrors all day long.

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What do you expect when you have Disney spacing out the episodes so much? People lose interest and don't even bother when a new episodes does come on, then there's also that Disney on demand thing they do where people can see the episode before it's broadcast airing. That's stupid as hell.

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Not only the spacing of episodes but even though Sabrina Carpenter is Disneys go-to star, every new episode is a Maya episode. The title should change from 'Girl Meets World' to 'Mayas Life Story'.
Its always Maya and her childhood, the made Riley a fool and the other characters as a side show.

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Some one suggested the show should have been about Maya. Not only that but Sabrina Carpenter also sings the show's theme song. This so should have been her show. Maya should have been Cory and Topanga's daughter and written the same way.

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I saw a behind the scenes thing where the redid her Song w/ Rowan singing in the chorus! in the "This is ME" thing they had on Rowan if I find it I'll Post the Link!



 Women, can't live with em; So stuff your mother and live with that.(Bullet Tooth 504)

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Both Rowan and Sabrina sing it. Rowan clearly is the one singing in the beginning, and Sabrina jumps in at: "Face to face with..."

** Rest in peace, Timothy Volkert (1988 - 2003) **

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Um, no dear, that's Sabrina singing in the beginning and the whole way through. The voice is the same in the beginning as it is with the "Face to Face" part and the voice is too deep and boyish to be Rowan's and Sabrina has a deep and boyish voice. I'm aware Rowan is also in the song but she's like a background vocalist. Hell this video shows SABRINA singing the beginning the same way it is the theme song so I'm not sure how you could have thought it was Rowan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Mfg_sENKUQ

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Mind. Blown.

Even as I watch the video, I'm convinced that is Rowan singing. It does not sound like Sabrina, and it does sound like Rowan. Even the way she says "wonderful" reminds me of when she said it in Girl Meets Smackle (in the beginning when she applauds Farkle's debate).

** Rest in peace, Timothy Volkert (1988 - 2003) **

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You are right. It is Rowan in the beginning. That video isn't even matched up right. It's super easy to tell their voices apart; they sound completely different.

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The video is off with the audio by like a second first of all so if you were trying to make a point there, you failed completely because if you payed attention to the LIPS when Sabrina is singing, it's clearly the theme song so it's not like this is something else they did together and I'm trying to trick you. Second, Rowan is not singing in the beginning. As the video shows, Sabrina starts off singing "I've been waiting for a chance to look around...." and so on throughout that first verse alone and Rowan isn't saying anything but waiting for her cue to come in. And again, ROWAN'S VOICE DOES NOT SOUND BOYISH! Sabrina's DOES. You people have hearing problems and apparently SIGHT problems too. And lastly, Sabrina's name is put first in the title which indicates she's the main singer of this song. 

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How can you still be convinced Rowan's is singing? It's Sabrina dear, face facts. I don't see how you're getting a sense of deepness in Rowan's voice with that and her voice on the show is all high and girly. Sabrina's voice on the other hand is deeper and boyish. Also, ignore the user who replied to you below because he or she is a fool trying to make a point off of the audio being off a little. Sabrina starts off singing and it's clearly the theme song if you look at the lips, so there.

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Outside of that video (because as you might be able to see, Rowan's lips happen to be moving as well), do you have any other proof of Sabrina singing the beginning? It doesn't sound like her. Rowan has a distinct nasalness to her voice that is slightly captured in the beginning of the song.

I don't need to hear "face facts" over and over, either. The video is not representative of when they actually recorded that part of that track.

** Rest in peace, Timothy Volkert (1988 - 2003) **

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Outside of that video (because as you might be able to see, Rowan's lips happen to be moving as well),

That's my mistake, it is moving but she seems to not be actually singing anything. She's more mouthing the words than saying it. You can hear her during the "Face to face with changes...." part in the background. The voice is light and it's clearly hers since Rowan's voice is light.
do you have any other proof of Sabrina singing the beginning? It doesn't sound like her.

The video is proof enough. You get a zoom in on Sabrina first. Hell, the fact that her name is titled first in the video is proof of who the main singer is. It does sound like her. You're clearly in a parallel world where Rowan apparently sounds boyish and Sabrina sounds girly. I don't see why I should bother beating this horse with you. You're complicated, but here's more proof if you want to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haVZyUTv8CY. Here is Sabrina singing the song WITHOUT Rowan present and guess what? The voice is the same like it is in the recording unless you want to declare Sabrina is just substituting for Rowan who wasn't able to be there to sing the song for herself and is imitating her singing voice....
I don't need to hear "face facts" over and over, either. The video is not representative of when they actually recorded that part of that track.

It doesn't matter WHEN they recorded it, it depicts who is the main singer here and the focus is on Sabrina. She starts off actually singing while Rowan looks to be mouthing the thing and the zoom is in her face early on to emphasize on this. Also, her name is titled first before Rowan's and then there's the live performance video above that I linked to you. It's Sabrina singing, end of story.

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Thanks for posting.

Wow, I can't believe they're trying to focus on Sabrina Carpenter (Maya) the most. The show is about Riley (Rowan Blanchard) and her problems growing up in this world.

It would be like if Rider Strong (Shawn) had top billing on Boy Meets World (1993), even though there were some episodes that focused solely on him, such as the ones that primarily featured Chet Hunter (Blake Clark).

At least on Boy Meets World, they actually had a real band (Twenty Cent Crush) preform the theme song towards the end. Before that, they had a musical composer (Ray Colcord).

Oh well, I stop by from time to time to see if there's any news about a renewal. So far, it doesn't sound too good from what I've read, and, the fact that Sabrina's already on another T.V. show isn't a good sign. Plus, the last episode is titled Girl Meets Goodbye (2017).

I guess the hype died down over the years, especially after a lot of the Boy Meets World cast had made an appearance.

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Plus, the last episode is titled Girl Meets Goodbye (2017).
The Day of Trumpets.

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Wow, I can't believe they're trying to focus on Sabrina Carpenter (Maya) the most. The show is about Riley (Rowan Blanchard) and her problems growing up in this world.

They see more of a singing factor in Sabrina than with Rowan. That's probably what it is and you know how Disney loves to get their girls into the singing gig. Plus Sabrina is more liked on this show than Rowan so that's also a factor. This mind as well have been Sabrina's show and now Rowan's.
It would be like if Rider Strong (Shawn) had top billing on Boy Meets World (1993), even though there were some episodes that focused solely on him, such as the ones that primarily featured Chet Hunter (Blake Clark).

And the weird thing is, Rider comes off as being more liked than Ben on that show. He's better looking too and Sabrina is also better looking than Rowan in my opinion. It's almost as if Michael Jacobs wanted their female Shawn on GMW to be the one that stands out more than the lead character to mimic this. They were mimicking everything else from that show so this doesn't surprise me.
Oh well, I stop by from time to time to see if there's any news about a renewal. So far, it doesn't sound too good from what I've read, and, the fact that Sabrina's already on another T.V. show isn't a good sign. Plus, the last episode is titled Girl Meets Goodbye (2017).

You're right, it doesn't sound good. The show being on this channel was a mistake. It was never going to live up to the level of it's parent show and if Disney was only going to let it get four seasons like they do with a lot of their other shows. They really missed the ball to do something big with this one: to be the first in a long time to touch on heavy issues and be the first to get a fifth season. What TV show is Sabrina currently on and are you sure it's not just for a guest role?
I guess the hype died down over the years, especially after a lot of the Boy Meets World cast had made an appearance.

The hype died down when it's clear the writers can't do anything more with it and it's back to it's childish antics, and the gaps between new episodes. They should have seen this coming though. They weren't truly going to let this show grow and now it's just a waste.

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Manna-Fest, have you ever heard the whole song before?

I only ask because I hadn't, until now. I just bought it on iTunes so I could play with some vocal separation things to kind of "prove" that it's Rowan, but after playing through the whole song I found a little break after the bridge, right here:

https://youtu.be/MDz4a9AlQ94?t=2m7s

In this part, first Rowan sings, then it switches to Sabrina. I think/hope all of us can agree on that there. So now the question is... can you hear that same switch in the "first verse" compared to the "second verse"? Because I hear that exact same voice to be Rowan's in the very first verse. I hear absolutely nothing that sounds like Sabrina in any way whatsoever. Her timbre and enunciation are vastly different than that of Rowan's.

And if it matters any regarding "ownership of song" (which I absolutely do not), Rowan's name is listed first on iTunes when you purchase it... but again, I don't think that matters much at all. I'm only stating who I believe to be singing that first part of the song on the studio recording.

** Rest in peace, Timothy Volkert (1988 - 2003) **

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Manna-Fest, have you ever heard the whole song before?


He's an idiot who deserves trolls like me and loves talking out his *beep* about *beep* he knows *beep* about. So the answer is no.

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Oh trust me, I know A LOT more than you cockroach, and thanks for admitting that you're a troll. But then you want to talk crap about me like I'm the troll and report my posts? Lousy ass human being and look, cursing up a storm. Tsk. Tsk. You deserve to be locked up in jail. By the way, you don't answer for me and that answer is wrong anyway so get lost and go clean up an airport lobby. And that user just admitted she didn't even listen to the whole song so it's funny you're trying to rub it in her face I didn't like she did. 👅

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I'll start by responding to the PM you send me I decided to incorporate in this comment so we're not having this same discussion in two different places:

I can't tell you the number of times I wish I got responded to in a conversation in a thread. Sometimes conversations just end. You also have to realize that sometimes I see a reply, get a phone call and have to leave or something, then never look back at it again and don't even remember that I planned on responding to it. Dumb example, but things happen. Don't take it too personally.

I just don't like it when conversations just abruptly end with no proper closure and I'm left wondering well did this person get notified of my reply or is ignoring me like what gives? If you don't want to discuss anymore then fine, but at least let me know you read the comment.
I heard the live performances. They don't sound like Sabrina to me. Am I being stubborn? Sure, maybe... but stubbornness to me means more so somebody who is not willing to hear the other's opinion as you make your claims. I guess you're willing to hear mine, so we'll equally share any stubbornness (or lack thereof).

You certainly are being stubborn, so apparently you think Sabrina's live performances are all a fluke and she's lip-syncing to either Rowan's voice or trying very hard to imitate her? The first idea would be silly as it mind as well be Rowan up there and not Sabrina at all. The second idea, not as silly but Sabrina wouldn't bother trying to imitate Rowan's voice as her own voice is good enough.
I'm not trying to argue over ownership of the song anyway,

This isn't about the ownership. Disney owns it of course, but this is simply about who's the main singer the whole way through.
Anything outside of that is nothing I was really interested in.

Huh? So you're only worried about this one little snippet and nothing else? So if Sabrina was said to be the one singing everything afterwards, you wouldn't care and basically I would be right since I'm saying she's the main singer the whole way through? This discussion is getting sillier and sillier by the post....
Just that part. If Sabrina's authentic Twitter account said that the lyrics you hear when watching the show are from her voice and not Rowan's, then I will gladly admit defeat. I just don't think that would happen if that was asked. I think anyone would say that is Rowan's voice.

I took the liberty to tweet Sabrina on three separate comments just a half hour ago and is waiting for her to reply. I hope she does. I of course did this before reading your PM and I had no idea you were just interested in the start of the first verse. But what I ask still works because I ask if she's the main singer the whole way through and if Rowan does simply sing in the background with no real spotlight verse as you think she has.
Manna-Fest, have you ever heard the whole song before?

Of course I did. You'd think I'll be arguing with you on who's singing the song the whole way through if I didn't even care to listen to the whole thing? I'm not that dumb to do such a thing and then have this slap me in the face. When I have discussions, I make sure I analyze things in it's entirety.
I only ask because I hadn't, until now.

Oh.....my......goodness. So you came into this discussion unprepared? I'm arguing about the entire song and you're telling me I'm wrong and now it becomes clear you've simply been focused on one part of it? Seriously?
I just bought it on iTunes so I could play with some vocal separation things to kind of "prove" that it's Rowan, but after playing through the whole song I found a little break after the bridge, right here:

https://youtu.be/MDz4a9AlQ94?t=2m7s

In this part, first Rowan sings, then it switches to Sabrina. I think/hope all of us can agree on that there.

You think it's Sabrina the whole way through? Seems odd you'd think Rowan would only be given this tiny little portion and then be tossed to the back to do basically-unnoticeable-background-vocals-to-the-casual-ear for the rest of the song. Why not just have Sabrina do that part?
So now the question is... can you hear that same switch in the "first verse" compared to the "second verse"? Because I hear that exact same voice to be Rowan's in the very first verse. I hear absolutely nothing that sounds like Sabrina in any way whatsoever. Her timbre and enunciation are vastly different than that of Rowan's.

No, the voice is the same to me. There is a lighter voice in the background at the "Face to Face" part echoing the main voice which I believe/know to be Rowan's. You also have to take into consideration this was like Sabrina's first song so her voice can change a tad bit on and off so she could appear to sound a bit light in one place and deep in another. But the voice is the same to me and Rowan and Sabrina have totally different voices to be able to pull off identical singing voices so one person is singing here and if it's Sabrina the rest of the song, then it's certainly her in this first part.
Rowan's name is listed first on iTunes when you purchase it... but again, I don't think that matters much at all. I'm only stating who I believe to be singing that first part of the song on the studio recording.

It doesn't and it's reasonable since she's the star but everywhere else you find the song Sabrina's name is first and you seem to be convinced it's her singing the rest of it which is what I've been explaining to you this whole time. If I can't convince you it's Sabrina's voice even in the first part, and if Sabrina doesn't respond to my tweets, then at least we can agree it's her for the rest though you do have to wonder why Rowan was given this one little spotlight part and throw to the back for the rest of the song. Makes it more believable that it's Sabrina's voice there too.

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When I said "I heard the live performances. They don't sound like Sabrina to me," I made a confusing statement. I was trying to say: "Her live performance does not match the sound in studio at the beginning of the song, because the studio version does not sound like Sabrina. It sounds like Rowan." There you go.

Anyway, let's go back and read my first reply post again:

Both Rowan and Sabrina sing it. Rowan clearly is the one singing in the beginning, and Sabrina jumps in at: "Face to face with..."

If you think my conversation with you had anything else to do with the song besides whose vocals are at the beginning, you are mistaken. I also provided another snippet after the bridge where Rowan takes front and center for a couple of lines. I am not arguing morals, ethics, or anything else regarding ownership of song, main singer of song, how many lines a singer deserves, or any of that.

Here is my contention, and I will leave it here: This song contains individual performances and harmonized performances... and in the lyrics below, I will bold places where only Rowan Blanchard is singing (in green is where I feel Rowan is the main voice heard, and Sabrina is harmonizing).

I've been waitin'
For a day like this to come
Struck like lightnin'
My heart's beating like a drum
On the edge of something wonderful


Face to face with changes
What's it all about?
Life is crazy
But I know I can work it out
Cause' I got you to live it with me

I feel all right, I'm gonna take on the world
Light up the stars, I've got some pages to turn
I'm singing oh oh oh
Oh oh oh ooh
I've got a ticket to the top of the sky
I'm comin' up, I'm on the ride of my life
I'm singing oh oh oh
Oh oh oh ooh

Take on the world [x6]

Puzzle pieces, throw them up into the air
Taking chances
Moments happen everywhere
I got you to live them with me

I feel all right, I'm gonna take on the world
Light up the stars, I've got some pages to turn
I'm singing oh oh oh
Oh oh oh ooh
I've got a ticket to the top of the sky
I'm comin' up, I'm on the ride of my life
I'm singing oh oh oh
Oh oh oh ooh

Take on the world [x5]

Flyin' high
I won't look down
Let my fears fall to the ground

I feel all right, I'm gonna take on the world
Light up the stars, I've got some pages to turn

I've got a ticket to the top of the sky
I'm comin' up, I'm on the ride of my life

I feel all right, I'm gonna take on the world
Light up the stars, I've got some pages to turn
I'm singing oh oh oh
Oh oh oh ooh
I've got a ticket to the top of the sky
I'm comin' up, I'm on the ride of my life
I'm singing oh oh oh
Oh oh oh ooh

Take on the world [x12]


** Rest in peace, Timothy Volkert (1988 - 2003) **

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When I said "I heard the live performances. They don't sound like Sabrina to me," I made a confusing statement. I was trying to say: "Her live performance does not match the sound in studio at the beginning of the song, because the studio version does not sound like Sabrina. It sounds like Rowan." There you go.

Well they do to me. If it sounds a little different, that's because live performances tend to be more natural as you know studio recordings can tweak up voices to sound "studio-ish".
Anyway, let's go back and read my first reply post again:

Both Rowan and Sabrina sing it. Rowan clearly is the one singing in the beginning, and Sabrina jumps in at: "Face to face with..."

If you think my conversation with you had anything else to do with the song besides whose vocals are at the beginning, you are mistaken.

Okay, and I responded that it was Sabrina at the beginning and the whole way through. The rest of the conversation seemed to turn towards the rest of the wrong since the entire time I'm telling you that Sabrina is the main singer of the song in it's entirety and you're all: "It's Rowan singing". It was no longer the case of just who sings the beginning.
Here is my contention, and I will leave it here: This song contains individual performances and harmonized performances... and in the lyrics below, I will bold places where only Rowan Blanchard is singing (in green is where I feel Rowan is the main voice heard, and Sabrina is harmonizing).

So Rowan only gets a few lines here? Such a waste to even give to her that Sabrina mind as well have sung those parts. That's why I'm so keen Sabrina is also singing those too apart from the voice sounding the same to me.

Well, Sabrina didn't respond to my tweets and you believe Sabrina is the main singer for 90% of the song. I guess we can settle things on that note.

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I know this board isn't about the theme song but if you look on the IMDB page under soundtrack it has them both.

Take On The World
Performed by Sabrina Carpenter and Rowan Blanchard;
Written by Matthew Tishler, Maria Christensen and Shridhar Solanki;
Produced by Matthew Tishler

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No one is denying they're both singing. I'm saying Sabrina is the MAIN one here (the main voice of the verses) and a couple clowns here are convinced it's Rowan's voice. Sounds nothing like her. That's clearly Sabrina's voice. Even have a life performance of it liked above and it's Sabrina singing for the most part and guess what? The voice matches identically what these people think is Rowan's voice.

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When the episodes are on, there's 20 minutes or less of show there.

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What do you mean?

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Between the commercials, announcements of upcoming shows, and the songs, there's 8 to 10 minutes taken out of the half hour. Add the minute for the opening, that leaves about 19 or 20 minutes of show. It doesn't leave much time to tell a good story, sometimes with a sub-story.

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Yeah, that's right. I wonder how often episodes have deleted scenes that didn't make it to the final cut given the short time slot the shows actually have. The shows often have two commercials and they do not need to be 8-10 minutes in length. They need to be at most six minutes. That leaves 24 minutes of story.

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I agree, Manna-Fest. It's hard to follow the story threads with so many long gaps.

(I was a big fan of Lab Rats: Elite Force on DXD. The first seven episodes aired weekly, then Disney put it on hiatus for three months. No wonder it was canceled after only 16 episodes, and without resolving a major story line! [It probably didn't help that the show's creators took so long to show the gang on actual Elite Force missions, but I think the huge gap in the middle of the schedule, without explanation, killed the show.])

Yeah, I know filankey is not a word, but it's gonna catch on.

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Disney sucks, end of story. From what I heard that Lab Rats show was very good and dark. It kills me when a new show like that is cancelled so quickly, especially one that is dark. We need more dark content on Disney to show they can jazz things up a bit. Just a waste of a show. It mind as well be labeled as a season of "Lab Rats" rather than a new show itself.

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GMW during season 2 was a ratings power house consistently doing above a 2.0


kek ovr 2 mil iz gud? get woke

[quote Girl meets Hollyworld did a dismal 1.21][/quote]

mebbe cuz it wuz stoopid af

This show is done.


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Now Rowan can tweet about social injustice horrors all day long.


she can go cry wit amy shumer n samanta be all day long 

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This clearly isn't a seasonal drop - if anything a holiday episode should do better.

I think it's likely we won't see a fourth season,sadly.

...and how do you do a Christmas episode without Shawn for goodness sake?



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It seems Nick and Disney refuse to learn from their scheduling. If you don't air anything at all for 3 weeks to a month (not just GMW but any shows period) during whats supposed to be your new show slots (friday/sat/sun night) people are just going to stop bothering to even check.

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That and Disney is ordering fewer episodes of DC series. Stuck In The Middle season one ran only 16 episodes, and I read on IMDb that Liv and Maddie's season four is only 13 episodes. Five years ago series routinely ran 25-27 episodes per season. Good Luck Charlie season two ran 30 episodes as did GMW last season. On the IMDb episode guide page for GMW season three only 21 episodes have titles. (It shows nine more untitled episodes, but I doubt it.)

Also, Disney doesn't seem to know what to do with Disney XD. DC is airing more DXD shows throughout the day, and DC promos include DXD cast members (particularly Walk the Prank cast members). Mech-X4 is presumably a DXD show but the first or five episodes debuted on DC; DXD started airing them this week, billed as "catch-up week."

Yeah, I know filankey is not a word, but it's gonna catch on.

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Ava was classic ! We need much more of her.

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