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The reason this movie will not change anything

posted 10 years ago by ricoo9
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Did the majority of people care about wikileaks and all the shady business that is already out on the open? Did we do anything when Wallstreet Banks robbed the middle class blind? Was there outrage when the govt. lied about WMD's? NOTHING HAPPENED...and nothing will continue to happen. As long as we don't feel the suffering that wars brings into our own region, we will continue to turn a blind eye on the situation because it is not our people that we're blowing up. Most people are clueless of the current political situation, and just agree blindly with what the main stream media feeds them like "Snowden is a traitor," etc,. and will continue to support the status quo. Sorry to sound pessimistic. It's good to stay informed, but change? We live in a sad country with many stupid people.

[–] bensfiction 10 years ago

Your last sentence was the most honest thing I've read all day...

It may be wrong of them, but they value their lives.

[–] jake-feinour 10 years ago

Snowden is a traitor, he got Americans killed.

[–] masscrazy 10 years ago

Because American lives more important.

Not the lives those the US government kills.

[–] jake-feinour 10 years ago

My life and the life of my guys always came first. Rather be judged by twelve then carried by six. So yes American lives are 100 percent more important then those dirt farmers.

[–] deepz125 10 years ago

WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA

bro, dirt farming is pretty profitable

[–] ethermusic1981 10 years ago

Hey, Jake: Shut the fk up, you military moron. It's people like you that help keep this country full of naive sheep and corrupt politicians.

[–] jake-feinour 10 years ago

I really do hope that it bothers you my friend.

[–] wurstero 10 years ago

Spoken like a true fascist.

[–] camansega 10 years ago

MY LIFE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN YOURS and you do not know where the *beep* I LIVE!

[–] lrrymccmmn 10 years ago

That, Jake, is exactly the problem... we (USA) believe that we are so much more important in the world than anyone else. Thank you for the honesty.

[–] LibertarianSoldier 10 years ago

Hearts and minds, eh Jake?

[–] Soodinum 10 years ago

'Then' and 'than' are completely different words and have completely different meanings.

[–] ricoo9 10 years ago

Egocentric much?

[–] rocchio-1 10 years ago

Snowden is not a traitor, he gave up his lively hood for the benefit of the average US citizen. He is a *beep* hero. He has contributed more to this country than you could ever dream of doing. Please give us one example of how Snowden's leaks contributed to the death of one single American, and then think long and hard about how the wool has been pulled over your eyes.

Full disclosure: I thought the movie was a lame mess. Anyone should be able to see, however, that the only reason why these conflicts around the world exist in this day and age is because they are being fueled by a combination of ignorance, and politics so that a few people can make a lot of money.

[–] mothnm 10 years ago

"they are being fueled by a combination of ignorance, and politics so that a few people can make a lot of money" and boredom. If the film made one contribution to the Peace discussion it is that people cannot bear the dullness of ordinary living.

P.S. This film isn't about Snowden at all. Hope imdb won't let you delete your spewing of adoration for Snowden once you read about his Rand Paul-ish early political leanings. Unlike Snowden, who now seems to think he should get amnesty (clemency isn't enough) and should be able to support himself on the lecture circuit in America, try to take full responsibility for the consequences of your actions.

[–] camansega 10 years ago

I was once told by a Muslim that WEAPONS and STUPIDITY ARE the very bad combination (obviously I meant the worst)... a combination so bad that can lead to the extinction of the planet, and along with it life (including the human species).

Now, you got two more ingredients:
A) MONEY
B) No conciousness
C) No regard for human life at all

And yes, the tree are two coz MONEY AND NO CONCIOUSNESS ARE IN ACTUAL TERMS THE SAME THING. These people exchange 1 USD for 1 human life! How sad is that? They even put a price tag of 1 USD into one US citizen!

[–] dileas 9 years ago

Snowden is not a traitor, he gave up his lively hood for the benefit of the average US citizen.

How lively was his hood, anyway? Was it like a bright pink colour or something?

He is a *beep* hero.

Yeah, I can't get over how he heroically fled the country to heroically sell state secrets to oppressive regimes. What a man!

[–] VirtualMark 10 years ago

Exposing crimes does not make you a traitor. The US is spying on it's own people, that's not cool. Here in the UK they're doing the same. Society does not need it's own government spying on it, they work for us and we should not have to fear them.

[–] godlessmaniac 10 years ago

Obviously the very events that this film is about could not have come into being if one simple film could change everything. That doesn't mean it can't contribute to any change at all, and even if it cannot, it is worth trying.

[–] madrav06 10 years ago

Read this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/16/glen-greenwald-media_n_410728 9.html

and then this:

http://digwithin.net/2014/01/01/snowden/

◾Max Levchin, a co-founder of Paypal, has openly stated his support for NSA spying on Americans.

◾Alex Karp used the Paypal framework to start Palantir, the most important company providing spying technology to the NSA.

And let me know what you think. I'd say Greenwald,Snowden,and Scahill are
psyop shills who are out to make some big profits.

If this doesn't bother you guy's then I must of entered the Twilight Zone.

[–] godlessmaniac 10 years ago

Nah u just crazy

[–] RealDuality 10 years ago

The reason it won't change anything is he doesn't have the credibility to deal with the subject, which is very obvious.

Last 3 films seen: Lone Survivor 7.5, The Terror Live 9.5, and The Hunger Games: Catching Fire 7

[–] mothnm 10 years ago

The reason this movie will not change anything is what Jeremy Scahill said in the documentary about ordinary life being dull. He needed to get back into the war that never ends.

[–] mickeeteeze 10 years ago

Well, I've always been 'pro draft'. Not because I'm 'pro war', either. But it speaks to one of your points I find valid. Hang a few dead bodies on every American corner, and maybe people will think twice about sending people off to fight for a 'political ideal'.

Afghanistan wanted to harbor guys that killed us? Fine, go in guns ablazing. Spread 'freedom' or some other cockamame BS? Let people decide what 'freedom' means to them, and let them live it. We can't afford to save the universe.

Hell, half the people in this country are OK with our own dying because they can't afford to treat cancer. But? Let's fly halfway around the world, beat a concept into people that don't want any of it? Then build schools, and LMAO at the irony, hospitals? Please.

That said? Scahill's documentary is very heavy handed. I believe this stuff goes on. But I also don't blindly believe all the deaths are mistakes. And he is smug.

Glad I watched it, though.

[–] Parker700 10 years ago

ricoo9, yes to everything you said. We suffered over a decade of Bloomberg catering to and bulking up the assets and accounts the elites and incompetent banks that we had to bail out in the first place! Rewards for giant ineptitude, get 'em here folks!

The cat's in the bag, and the bag's in the river

[–] splumer 10 years ago

I think one of the major reasons is that the people feel powerless. The majority of the US opposes the war, for a variety of reasons. So what are we supposed to do to stop it? I told my senator to his face that the war has to stop, and he said he agreed, but that he is in the minority.