The one thing


First off, this movie is incredible. Very realistic, very well done. However, the one thing I had the problem with was the unfortunately typical we're-about-to-die-and-we-can-do-something-about-it-but-we're-going-to-bond-instead moment. A pitfall in innumerable movies. But still a very good movie all-around.

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I enjoyed it, but I don't believe its an "8.5," that's clearly manufactured. A very minor minor point. When the injured captain is trying to call NORAD, he identifies his plane as "Chariot 2-5 Heavy." A 727 is not considered a "heavy" aircraft. Just a quirk.

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I'd like to see you try and lift it

...and don't point your fooking tentacles at me!

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They did mention that the plane had been modified to fly at 65,000 ft., which is more than 50% over it's rated ceiling, so it is conceivable that the modifications allowed a maximum takeoff weight of over 300,000 lbs, which is less than 50% over it's rated maximum. That qualifies it as a 'heavy'.


"In a time of universal deceit,
telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
George Orwell

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In aviation speak, "heavy" means carrying passengers.

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No it doesn't. Heavy refers to the amount of fuel being carried.

I don't speak whatever.

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a maximum takeoff weight of over 300,000 lbs... That qualifies it as a 'heavy'.
The definition was included in the reply.

"In a time of universal deceit,
telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
George Orwell

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I stand corrected. Not sure that you are correct, though, as it seems to be a matter of maximum something or other, that may or may not include cargo weight, which may or may not include passengers, and/or fuel, at take off, or landing, or some such.

But, heavy does not mean passengers, as I thought.

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"Heavy− Aircraft capable of takeoff weights of 300,000 pounds or more whether or not they are operating at this weight during a particular phase of flight."
www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/pcg/pcg.pdf

Passengers, fuel, widgets, sex bots, Kung Pao chicken, and your grandma's suitcase full of whipped cream and thongs are all included in the takeoff weight of the aircraft.

In aviation speak, "heavy" means carrying passengers.
But, heavy does not mean passengers, as I thought.
Unless fishrockcarving was thinking that the passengers didn't count if they all jumped as high as they could at the exact moment of takeoff. Don't feel bad, fish, because if you take note of the exact wording of the definition, that's covered too.

As I said earlier (twice now): a maximum takeoff weight of over 300,000 lbs... That qualifies it as a 'heavy' .


"In a time of universal deceit,
telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
George Orwell

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Incredible? That's preposterous.

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