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This was an average movie. But so are many secular films made by Hollywood. They don't bother rating those down , but they make it a purpose to repeatedly rate down movies that are even marginally Christian. Such a waste of time and energy.


"Life is like a box of Krispy Kreme donuts".

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I agree with you on this one 100%.

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many secular films made by Hollywood.


Such as, or are you classing secular films as those which simply aren't focused on any gods or religions?

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Secular films that are average or mediocre in nature.


"Life is like a box of Krispy Kreme donuts".

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Did you miss the "such as" or just figure you'd ignore it?

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So no true atheist would rate up a Christian film?



Yeah, just explain everything away with zero evidence kurt-2000

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Look at the 700 Club. On IMDB Its rated a 2 something. And its mostly news. Its not even really "religious" programming.

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Are you trolling or what?

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Look at the 700 Club. On IMDB Its rated a 2 something. And its mostly news. Its not even really "religious" programming.


Maybe it has something to do with Pat Robertson being a terrible human being who advocates hate.

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Robertson has made almost as many outrageous comments as Trump. He recently said it's ok to hit kids that don't believe in God. Which is child abuse in the first degree.





" Just wish we could have the old board back, with fun people who like discussing the show" - Centrd

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Got any evidence for that? No? Shocking.

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Thus the reason the member star ratings are mostly 1 or 10. The battle line was drawn.


32106 IMDb users have given a weighted average vote of 4.9 / 10
Demographic breakdowns are shown below.
Votes
 Percentage
 Rating
9997
 31.1%
10
2142
 6.7%
9
2325
 7.2%
8
2212
 6.9%
7
1735
 5.4%
6
1414
 4.4%
5
919
 2.9%
4
966
 3.0%
3
1384
 4.3%
2
9012
 28.1%
1
Arithmetic mean = 5.9.  Median = 7

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Median = 7


OK, I've not studied any maths since I was 15 but how is 7 the median of 1-10?

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Median is the middle value from all the votes - so with 32106 votes you're looking for the 16053th highest/lowest vote, which would be a 7.

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so with 32106 votes you're looking for the 16053th highest/lowest vote, which would be a 7.


I think I'm going to stick with having no interest in mathematics as I've never particular understood the relevance of the median value or what it's supposed to represent..

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Median isn't skewed by large or tiny values in the same way the mean (average) is. It's not particularly important with the sorts of ratings IMDB uses as the data set is limited between 1 and 10.

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I'm an atheist and:

The Man From Earth, 8/10.
Noah 7/10
What Dreams May Come 8/10
Exodus: Gods and Kings 6/10
God's Not Dead 2/10



The point? I don't judge a movie based on it being religious. I based my opinion on if the movie is good or not (subjectively). In this case, for this movie, it's a POS. That's not my atheism speaking, that's my movie fan speaking.

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but they make it a purpose to repeatedly rate down movies that are even marginally Christian. Such a waste of time and energy.


Thank you OP, and you're absolutely correctly.

I think it has to do with atheist insecurity issues.

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I think it has to do with atheist insecurity issues.


So what insecurities do you have over Kristen Stewart, assuming you're still obsessively knocking her and her fans on that board?

ps. Not liking a film because it's not very good has nothing to do with whether or not one believes in any gods or happens to be religious. Anyway, I'd still like to know what a non Christian such as yourself is still doing commenting on a pro-Christian film, seeing as you're vehemently against such actions, as your past comments towards atheists have shown?

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So what insecurities do you have over Kristen Stewart, assuming you're still obsessively knocking her and her fans on that board?


Here's the further proof that you don't read comments, and have a comprehension problem.


Lets go over the talking points since you brought it twice now after allegedly reading my comments.

I liked Kristen in four films.

I think she was the wrong choice for the five Twilight sage films.

I think her acting needs some improvement, although I was very impressed with Woody Allen's 'Cafe Society' which was a delight, and Kristen did great.

And her male fans on the Stewart board wanted to date her, until I explained to them that she's in love with another woman.

Cosmo you're an idiot.

Because half the people on the Stewart board agreed with me.

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Lets go over the talking points


Let us do, and please consider that I only had a brief foray over there so I will be focusing something specific, which backs up what I was saying. Did you start a thread entitle 'This is what a real woman looks like' (or at least something along those lines) which you then filled with links to a half naked Kate Upton? Seems to me like that was A) knocking Stewart for her looks, and B) you fawning over an, admittedly impressive, busty young lady. Let us not forget that your particular god of choice judges you even on your most basic of thoughts, so good luck with all that lustful behaviour you have towards women much younger than yourself. Also...

I explained to them that she's in love with another woman.


Ah yes, your foray into explaining sexual preferences by stating that she's a lesbian and therefore not interested in boys. I seem to recall that I, and others, possibly even deviates actually, had to explain how you don't understand how sexuality works, what with the fact that she's also dated guys.

Here's the further proof that you don't read comments, and have a comprehension problem.


I see you're still completely devoid of any self awareness. And I'd wager you can't justify your continued dislike of atheists on here when there's very little difference between us and you with your behaviour over there, other than you being infinitely more insulting to those with different opinions to you than any of us are.

So then kurt, why did you choose to ignore the post that showed up your idiocy? It's this one by the way --->http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2528814/board/thread/263295506?p=2&d=263512031#263512031

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you fawning over an, admittedly impressive, busty young lady.


Well straight guys tend to do that. I forgot you'd be easily offended.

Stewart is skinny to the point of looking ill: was the point of that post. She can't act and she has habit of snorting out of her nose when she laughs. Last time I checked, you had numerous critical remarks about all the actors you didn't like as well, so your argument is hypocritical as usual.

links to a half naked Kate Upton


Any straight male Brit would have said, 'Right on Kurt'. You're pathetic. Grow a pair.

had to explain how you don't understand how sexuality works, what with the fact that she's also dated guys.


Everyone on that board agrees that Stewart has a confusion problem with who she wants to settle down with. The conclusion is that she's a playgirl.

I'd wager you can't justify your continued dislike of atheists on here when there's very little difference between us a


I never said that I disliked deviates. I simply said you're a jackass. It's not confusing. But I do think that you and deviates should find girlfriends instead of ridicule people of faith as a hobby.

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Well straight guys tend to do that. I forgot you'd be easily offended.


Go on kurt, let your homophobia shine through.

Stewart is skinny to the point of looking ill


She really isn't, but I'd rather not get into a discussion about her appearance, and your issues with it, on here.

Last time I checked, you had numerous critical remarks about all the actors you didn't like as well, so your argument is hypocritical as usual.


Best get back to digging around my posting history kurt. I expect you to come back with evidence of me A) discussing actors, B) making any critical remarks about actors I do or do not like, particularly in regard to their appearance or personal life/habits. I know this is a futile request to make of you because you can't and as such will either continue making vague statements with nothing to back them up or just flat out ignore this post. Same as usual. There's nothing hypocritical about what I've said to you, but if you want to know what hypocritical is then just consider the way you ridicule fans of Kirsten Stewart whilst simultaneously having a go at atheists for 'ridiculing' (something you've never been able to back up) you, which in your mind equates to 'ridiculing all Christians/people of faith.

Any straight male Brit would have said, 'Right on Kurt'. You're pathetic. Grow a pair.


Actually any decent human being would look down on you for stating that women should look pretty and busty and half naked, not 'skinny' and comparatively normal and average. Also, and I'd really like an answer to this please, what do you think 'grow a pair' means? Because it doesn't look like you're using it properly, as per usual.

The conclusion is that she's a playgirl.


Heaven forbid a young person goes through more than one relationship before finally deciding whether or not to settle down. What a bitch!

I never said that I disliked deviates. I simply said you're a jackass. It's not confusing.


For something that's not confusing, you do appear to be responding entirely to something that I've not even said. Perhaps you should read my post again. Actually, you don't even need to read my post again, you just have to look at the section you've already copy and pasted and directly responded to, you know the bit in which I've not remotely mentioned deviates, it's not rocket science.




So then kurt, why did you choose to ignore the post that showed up your idiocy? It's this one by the way ---> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2528814/board/thread/263295506?p=2&d=263512031#263512031

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Go on kurt, let your homophobia shine through.


I don't care if you're gay, but keep your comments to yourself regarding Upton if you're a gelding.

She really isn't, but I'd rather not get into a discussion about her appearance,


Five of us on the Stewart board believe Stewart has an eating disorder, which caused her skinny appearance. If you want to join the discussion on that board, then make up your mind. If you don't care then put a sock in it.

I expect you to come back with evidence


I don't recall of any actors or films that you like.

any decent human being would look down on you


Once again, you don't represent anyone on IMDb.

women should look pretty


Stewart made $70 million for the Twilight films alone, you toad. And yes, she should have looked pretty for those films. That's a reasonable expectation for movie fans. Grow up.

Heaven forbid a young person goes through more than one relationship before finally deciding whether or not to settle down. What a bitch!


She's had more sex partners than Hugh Hefner. Even her devout groupies have a problem with that. Had you bothered to read comments for a board you're obsessed with, you'd know that.

Perhaps you should read my post again.


No. Your posts are stupid enough the first time around.

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I don't care if you're gay, but keep your comments to yourself regarding Upton if you're a gelding.


So one who doesn't share your need to be a pervy old man who puts down those who don't look like a 'woman should look like' is either gay or has no bollocks, is that right? And as I'm not a "gelding" (get yourself off urban dictionary please kurt) then I'm fully free to share my comments completely. Thanks for your permission oh great ruler of the GND IMDb board.

If you don't care then put a sock in it


Breaking news: kurt misses the point!

I don't recall of any actors or films that you like.


Then it should be even easier for you to come up with evidence of actors (or films, though that's moving the goalposts) that I don't like, shouldn't it?

Once again, you don't represent anyone on IMDb.


You should take your own advice kurt...

Any straight male Brit would have said, 'Right on Kurt'.


...no?

Stewart made $70 million for the Twilight films alone, you toad. And yes, she should have looked pretty for those films. That's a reasonable expectation for movie fans. Grow up.


But kurt I'm not the one saying she doesn't look like a woman should look like, you frog. Do you not think that someone with the views that you're espousing are the ones who actually need to 'grow up', not those of us who don't judge women based on their appearance?

Had you bothered to read comments for a board you're obsessed with, you'd know that.


Point 1: That's not remotely what the point I was making is, yet again.
Point 2: I'm obsessed with a board I looked at once, because deviates brought it to the boards attention? And much like deviates, after a brief foray over there I left it well clear. Shall we add 'obsessed' to your list of words that you don't understand? I feel we probably should.

No. Your posts are stupid enough the first time around.


How many times kurt, when you've done something that is obviously and objectively a huge mistake, and a very simple and stupid one at that, you probably shouldn't call others "stupid". I'll give you a hint, I never mentioned deviates in my post, yet you devoted an entire paragraph to me talking about him, even though I never did. I think that an impartial observer might very well consider your mistake to be more stupid than me not actually saying anything, don't you? And don't worry, I know you don't agree because you've got no sense of self-awareness and a completely misplaced ego.

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What a long rant. Get a life Cosmo. No I don't share your twisted views.
And turning your back on your fell Brit, Kate Upton, to defend the anorexic hack Stewart is lame.

I know you don't agree because you've got no sense of self-awareness


Says the alleged male that who dissed Kate Upton. Get some glasses, hermit.

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I'm curious... If you're not a fan of KS, why do you frequent the KS forum?

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My reasoning for that was also presented to all the fanboys on the Kristin Stewart board: To recap -

I watched all the Twilight films (five) and liked them. But I had a big problem with Stewart being cast. Her involvement as the principle lead for all five films is the reason I don't own the films. I met a number of other people on the board who had a problem with KS, and a fight broke out.

In the aftermath, I agreed that KS did a good job in four other unrelated films, and we all agreed on the board that 'Café Society' was a pretty good Woody Allen film. So there is no universal hate among the board critics.

But the fanboys still want to date her and have sex with her. Which isn't likely going to happen.

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Ok, so you initially went to the KS board to express your "big problem with her being cast" in the Twilight films, and you got sucked in. If that's an accurate assessment, would it be fair to say that some, if not all, the atheists on this board experienced something similar?

(Incidentally, I'm not a KS fan, either.)

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It's because she's not pretty enough and doesn't look like a woman should look like, which I think means busty and scantily dressed. Such is the world according to kurt. It's a good job he's not a Christian with those sort of views.

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It's because...

Are you Kurt's spokesperson? :P

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Why not, he's your spokesman and representative. Actually no he isn't, because you're not a Christian according to him, as I just got reminded of while bored and reading through old threads (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2528814/board/thread/254974330?p=2&d=255104676#255104676).

More specifically, it's far easier to spot his true meanings by reading what he actually says, when he says it, rather than taking any notice of his attempts to justify or explain himself, what with his aversion to honesty and all.

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So that's a yes, then?

Were you really reading through old threads simply because you were bored? If I had to bet, I'd say you were looking for something.

More specifically, it's far easier to spot his true meanings by reading what he actually says, when he says it, rather than taking any notice of his attempts to justify or explain himself, what with his aversion to honesty and all.

I'm confused. Can we spot his "true meanings" by reading what he actually says...or not?

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If I had to bet, I'd say you were looking for something.


Is there a specific reason why 'people of faith' are so unbelieving of people's intentions?

Can we spot his "true meanings" by reading what he actually says...or not?


Also, do you ever consider not being antagonistic? Essentially, as I'm sure you're aware, kurt says things and then tries to justify himself, usually with contradictions after the fact because even he knows he's done wrong because he likes to try and convince people that he's a liberal.

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Is there a specific reason why 'people of faith' are so unbelieving of people's intentions?

Red herring. My belief in God is completely irrelevant and as such, has no application to the question of whether or not you just so happened to have been reading through old threads simply because you were bored.

Also, do you ever consider not being antagonistic?

You said it was easier to spot what he really means by reading what he actually says when he says it as opposed to what he says when he's explaining or justifying what he said. That alone is confusing enough, even without the added bit about dishonesty.

So, just to be sure I understand you correctly... You're saying that he's honest when he actually says something, but when he tries to explain or justify what he said, it should be disregarded on the grounds of dishonesty. And when I say that confuses me and I ask for simple clarification, I'm being antagonistic. Did I get all that right?

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Red herring.


We are pattern seeking creatures and I've noticed one. That is all.

You're saying that he's honest when he actually says something, but when he tries to explain or justify what he said, it should be disregarded on the grounds of dishonesty.


FFS! I'm saying he's not clever enough to hide his actual thoughts therefore when he's busy getting tangled up trying to appear open and liberal and not bigoted (be it sexist, racist, homophobic etc), then his initial opinions should be taken as the default. I don't think he's ever honest, not purposefully at least, he's just not good at hiding the truth behind his thoughts and opinions.

*edit as I forgot about it*

when I say that confuses me and I ask for simple clarification, I'm being antagonistic. Did I get all that right?


No, you're antagonistic because you go around, kind of playing devils advocate, pulling people up on every little things that you feel you can get away with questioning them about. Seemingly for no reason other than to get some sort of disagreement going. At least that's how it appears to me.

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We are pattern seeking creatures and I've noticed one. That is all.

I think we both have noticed your tendency to employ fallacies when you feel your back is up against the wall, even when it really isn't. Look, I don't really care if it was just a coincidence; I just don't believe it was. But for some reason, that's such a big issue with you that you felt the need to bring my belief in God into it. But hey, whatever...

FFS!

Indeed. Holy crap, Hobo. Even after all this, I still don't know if you're saying whether or not we can spot his "true meanings" by reading what he actually says. Apparently it depends on several things, such as when he says it or if he's talking about something he said prior to what he's saying. Lucky for you, I care even less now than I did when I first asked, so never mind. Jeez.

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when you feel your back is up against the wall


It would seem you're seeing things that aren't there. It was a flippant comment that you apparently don't care about yet chose to focus on. But hey, whatever...

I just don't believe it was.


If you choose not to believe me then that's your call. You're wrong, but have at it. When I've got time to kill and nothing better to do I sometimes read through old threads. Some that I've been involved in and some that I somewhat randomly pick and just read out of boredom and/or general interest in whatever the topic is.

Lucky for you, I care even less now than I did when I first asked, so never mind. Jeez.


If you don't care then let things go once in a while, it's not hard. There's no point jumping in only to then claim that you don't care after the fact, and I can't dumb it down any further for you.

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when you feel your back is up against the wall
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It would seem you're seeing things that aren't there.

You neglected to quote the latter half what I said: "...even when it really isn't."

It was a flippant comment that you apparently don't care about yet chose to focus on.

I don't know about "flippant," but yes, that's more or less correct. I've also been known to focus on Olympic curling, Rosie O'Donnell, and my neighbor's porch swing. One does not need to care about something to comment on it.

You're wrong

If you say so. It's fine by me either way.

If you don't care then let things go once in a while

What part of "never mind" did you not understand? Looks like one of us hasn't let it go yet, and it ain't me.



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What part of "never mind" did you not understand?


He has no mind for understanding. It's classic cosmo.

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I didn't neglect anything, the part that I quoted was an incorrect assertion by you as to my own view on a situation, which was the only by bit that was worth replying to.

One does not need to care about something to comment on it.


Correct, but there's a difference between not having any kind of emotional position on something and constantly pushing for an answer on an issue that you're not bothered about, especially so after you've been given a response to it, albeit one that you can't quite wrap your head around.

Looks like one of us hasn't let it go yet, and it ain't me.


So you say, but it isn't me who's saying that I'm caring about something less now than I did when I first focused on it, when apparently you didn't care to start with anyway. I'm well aware that Miscella is oh so much smarter than the rest of us and is never wrong, but maybe that's not the case eh?

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Yeah ok, Hobo. Whatever you say.

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Well there's a standard and predictable reply to a post that points out your own failings on here. And as always it's not a rant.

No I don't share your twisted views.


I never said you did, but then you're a borderline illiterate right wing gun nut and I'm a literate liberal, so that need not have been said.

And turning your back on your fell Brit, Kate Upton


This Kate Upton?- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Upton - 'Upton was born in St. Joseph, Michigan, and in 1999 moved with her family to Melbourne, Florida,[3] where she was a student at Holy Trinity Episcopal Academy.[5] She is the daughter of Shelley (née Davis), a former Texas state tennis champion, and Jeff Upton, a high school athletics director.[6][7][8] Her uncle is U.S. Representative Fred Upton.[9][10] Upton's great-grandfather, Frederick Upton, was co-founder of appliance manufacturer and marketer Whirlpool Corporation.[11].' Don't think she's a Brit me old mucker.
And I'm curious as to how not agreeing with the way in which you've used her in order to denigrate another young woman for not 'looking like a real woman' constitutes 'turning my back' on someone I have nothing to do with at all? By the way, it's people who express the sort of views on women that you do which result in young women suffering eating disorders and the like. I hope you and your god are very proud of yourself.

Says the alleged male that who dissed Kate Upton. Get some glasses, hermit.


As has always happened kurt, your attempt at being smug and making a point has entirely failed because this has not got one single thing, whatsoever, to do with self awareness. Please try again.

Also, before you mischaracterise this as usual, ^ is not a rant.

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Well there's a standard and predictable reply to a post that points out your own failings on here. And as always it's not a rant.

No I don't share your twisted views.


I never said you did, but then you're a borderline illiterate right wing gun nut and I'm a literate liberal, so that need not have been said.

And turning your back on your fell Brit, Kate Upton


This Kate Upton?- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Upton - 'Upton was born in St. Joseph, Michigan, and in 1999 moved with her family to Melbourne, Florida,[3] where she was a student at Holy Trinity Episcopal Academy.[5] She is the daughter of Shelley (née Davis), a former Texas state tennis champion, and Jeff Upton, a high school athletics director.[6][7][8] Her uncle is U.S. Representative Fred Upton.[9][10] Upton's great-grandfather, Frederick Upton, was co-founder of appliance manufacturer and marketer Whirlpool Corporation.[11].' Don't think she's a Brit me old mucker.
And I'm curious as to how not agreeing with the way in which you've used her in order to denigrate another young woman for not 'looking like a real woman' constitutes 'turning my back' on someone I have nothing to do with at all? By the way, it's people who express the sort of views on women that you do which result in young women suffering eating disorders and the like. I hope you and your god are very proud of yourself.

Says the alleged male that who dissed Kate Upton. Get some glasses, hermit.


As has always happened kurt, your attempt at being smug and making a point has entirely failed because this has not got one single thing, whatsoever, to do with self awareness. Please try again.

Also, before you mischaracterise this as usual, ^ is not a rant.

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Anyway, I'd still like to know what a non Christian such as yourself is still doing commenting on a pro-Christian film, seeing as you're vehemently against such actions, as your past comments towards atheists have shown?


kurt, like all the great hypocrites, wants you to do as he says and not as he does.

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Not that it ever stopped you from bashing religion.

Pot meet Vernuf kettle.

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This was an average movie. But so are many secular films made by Hollywood. They don't bother rating those down , but they make it a purpose to repeatedly rate down movies that are even marginally Christian. Such a waste of time and energy.

How is this movie average?

The acting sucks.

The editing sucks.

It's boring.

The story isn't focused. We get these unrelated, uninteresting and dumb sub plots.

This is like a Lifetime movie that got a theatrical release. I don't understand why just because of the message the film is trying to tell that you give it a pass. If I were a Christian I'd be demanding better.

I would have rated this movie a 2/10 but it's so insulting and stupid in it's portrayal atheists that I brought it down to a 1/10.

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You Atheists get triggered easily

The acting in this isn' t bad. Its okay. Not great. Yeah, and Lifetime movies are often considered average, but not always horrible. I don't watch many of them, granted. But there are so many secular films that are far worse than this.



"Life is like a box of Krispy Kreme donuts".

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You Atheists get triggered easily

It's not even about religion with me! For some crazy reason my friends can watch Batman vs. Superman and not see it for the trash that it is.

I seen a lot of movies and God's Not Dead is bad. Is it the worst movie ever made? Certainly not.

Is it good? No it isn't.

As a movie why don't you tell me the things that made it good. I'll understand if you can't if it's been a long time since you seen it but why don't you try?

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You said earlier that you liked the 10 Commandments?

I believe the quality for anything remotely Christian/Biblical seems to set at a higher standard than your average film, though. Like Ceicl B. Demille, most non Christians may not have a highly unfavorable opinion on it. And also same with even The Passion. They would rate those films probably at least adequately. But those films are intense in many ways

An average movie with an average budget like this, however- my point was, if its Christian, its going to be under more scrutiny and viewed with more disdain than a secular film of the same caliber. That is all I'm saying.



"Life is like a box of Krispy Kreme donuts".

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An average movie with an average budget like this, however- my point was, if its Christian, its going to be under more scrutiny and viewed with more disdain than a secular film of the same caliber. That is all I'm saying.

That's true.

I think it's worth saying I don't think a lot people rate things like movies very well or just don't take it seriously. I had this IMDB account since 2004 and I'm disgusted at some of the ratings I gave out lol. Like 10/10 for Super Mario Brothers The Movie... What was wrong with me? 

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Okay guys what did you rate other films with the Religion plot keyword?

18. God's Not Dead (2014) 1/10

I already shared what I thought about this film.

17. La chiesa (1989) 3/10

A bad bad horror movie.

16. Boyhood (2014) 4/10

A neat idea but was poor in execution.

15. Prince of Darkness (1987) 4/10

A weak John Carpenter movie. Seemed interesting but the plot is a mess.

14. Captain Salvation (1927) 4/10

First half of the movie was very good. Then things go downhill because of "because movie" moments.

13. Ben-Hur (2016) 5/10

The beginning of this movie is SO boring. Things pick up after Judah get captured.

12. Angela's Ashes (1999) 7/10

This is a good drama film. It goes back and forth between fun and sad.

11. Possession (1981) 7/10

A very scary film.

10. Breach (2007) 8/10

Interesting true story of how a CIA agent uses religion to get close to a double agent.

9. The Song of Bernadette (1943) 8/10

Very good movie. A bit long.

8. The Wicker Man (1973) 8/10

A scary story of a English cop going to an island controlled by a Pagan cult.

7. Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981) 8/10

Kinda fits this list I guess.

6. Beneath the Planet of the Apes (1970) 9/10

I really enjoy this film. More than others. I'll admit it's kinda dumb.

5. The Exorcist (1973) 9/10

Great horror film.

4. The Ten Commandments (1956) 9/10

Great movie. The filmmakers are able to take a story I already know and make it entertaining.

3. Inherit the Wind (1960) 9/10

I probably enjoyed this more than our religious friends on the board.

2. Religulous (2008) 10/10

I probably overrated this lol. Been forever since I seen it.

1. Planet of the Apes (1968) 10/10

All time classic film.

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Beneath the Planet of the Apes


Far and away the best (well, my favourite at least) of the original Planet of the Apes films.

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Bad things about the film off the top of my head

1. The girl who got cancer couldn't even produce tears. I'm not a good actor but if I try I can do that. He attempt at crying is horrible.

2. The intro sucks. It's dreadful and the editing is so bad. It doesn't convey what the movie is going to be. Or maybe it does because this movie is bad. So maybe I'm wrong and the intro works because the movie sucks.

3. The ending was such an F-U ending. I hate those I really do. I bring grades down in other movies for doing those so there's no reason I shouldn't do that here. The atheist professor getting hit by the car and confessing that he then out of the blue believed in Jesus was a terrible ending. All the build up for that? Come on! That's bad writing.

4. Everyone is a stereotype. Every character being a stereotype doesn't make for an interesting drama. Characters should grow and change.

5. All atheists in the movie are jerks. That's not realistic. And in this drama it's makes the movie uninteresting. This movie is based in the real world so Professor Radisson should have been a more realistic character.

6. Cinematography is bad. You'll noticed when it starts pouring rain in near the climax of the film that it only effects Professor Radisson and no one else sitting on tables like 10 feet behind him.

Okay 6 things pal. Why don't you tell me some good things about this movie.

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