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I’m just looking forward to the Plinkett review


So I have to go and see it at the theater first

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Won't he praise it? He did so for TFA and TLJ.

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He definitely didn't praise The Last Jedi. I think Red Letter Media likes The Last Jedi more than, say, the prequels, but from their Half in the Bag and from the Plinkett review, I got the distinct impression he disliked it.

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They didn’t like TLJ. They didn’t like Solo or Rogue One either and they are already cracking on this movie. TFA was the only sequel they liked and I’m not sure why as it had many of the same problems the others had.

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Many people baffingly loved TFA, but I didn't. It felt very off to me. Aside from being a remake of ANH, it felt more like a Star Wars Greatest Hits PARODY with the biggest chain of coincidences I've ever seen in a movie. I guess people were so starved of Star Wars that they were willing to accept any old recycled crap, just so long as it was "well-made", obviously with the screenplay as an exception.

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People bafflingly loved a new hope, when it is nothing more than a remake of hidden fortress.

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I have never seen Hidden Fortress, I never even knew it existed until recently, and I have no desire to see it because I've seen (from what I've read) basically the same story repackaged into an epic, snazzy, sci-fi special effects extravaganza rather than a crummy, crusty old black & white movie with foreigners. I mean, how are kids supposed to have seen HF back in the 1970s? It was most likely limited to Japan and very occasional showings in art house cinemas (which no doubt Lucas was inspired by) but my point is, just because the same basic story already existed in an older form, doesn't mean that new generations will embrace it in that older form. Heck, how do you know HF isn't based on Joseph Campbell's Hero With a Thousand Faces (the most commonly cited influence of Star Wars)?

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Oh so because it's black and white that means no one has seen it or will give it the time of day? So that leads us to this question then what about today's generations who has no interest in watching the old Star Wars or the prequels? Second you touted a new hope as original and I just proved it isn't. People throw around original all the time without backing it up. Then when backed into a corner they go well I haven't seen that older movie. Well ok then some haven't seen or care to ever see a new hope. I never touted hidden fortress as original you did with a new hope. See how ignorant it makes you sound?

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Where did I say that ANH was original on this thread?

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You said well at least the originals and the prequels were made with soul and passion. So maybe I got over zealous and thought you meant original. In that case I stand corrected.

Thing is though I get tired of hearing tfa is cliche when other things get a pass. I get sick of hearing I am a shill simply because I enjoy the Disney Star Wars films. I think the prequels were awful in every sense of the word. Terrible acting, over use of cgi and green screen as well as inconsistent continuity.

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Overuse of CGI for... sets and locations? Wrong. There is evidence out there that the Prequels used more practical sets and miniatures than the OT. I was surprised, too. I think it's the way the films look more CGI than they actually are.

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In case of Phantom Menace but not in the case of the attack of the clones or Revenge of the sith. Thing is Jabba the hut, and Yoda all looked better in the OT why because they were puppets as opposed to cgi. As I said the prequel trilogy I found awful and I like how you neglect my other points.

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Acting? Possibly.
Green screen? Well, there would be.
Inconsistent Continuity? Very minor, only Leia's mother springs to mind.

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Where did Yoda train Obi Wan like he said he did in the OT? Why was Qui Gon never mentioned in the OT? Midoclorians are awful.

I have a whole mountain of problems with those crap films other than that though.

Anakin turn as evil was not sad at all. Want to know why? He was a spoiled whiny emo brat that was not likable at all. The turn was also not gradual but a light switch.

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It's funny how easy people are able to be duped into false/contradictory narratives like "the prequels sucked because the excessive amount of cgi, unlike TFA which is just a pure practical effects extravaganza! " when in reality there was significantly more usage of practical effects than in the entire OT combined & let alone TFA. Propaganda is a thing for a reason because it tends to work on the masses. Cgi was a cool back when TPM came out so it was emphasized. Over use of CGI isn't cool anymore so it got downplayed despite in reality containing more shots of CGI than TPM.

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Where did I say the Disney films were a practical extravaganza? Go ahead and point to it I will wait.

I don't care if you use cgi as long as it's done well look at the apes movies for instance. The prequels cgi was trash. The Disney films cgi is good. And yes I'm accounting for time it was made.



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If someone even mentions the P word concerning Star Wars, do you always feel the need to launch into a furious tirade about how YOU personally don't like them?

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Yep every time I get called a shill for liking the Disney Star Wars film. I get tired of how toxic the Star Wars fan base is. In their eyes it is not possible to like enjoy TFA, Last Jedi or Rogue one unless you are a shill for Disney.

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I personally enjoy Rogue One - I've always been a huge fan of the Death Star, and this is sort of its movie.
As for liking TFA and TLJ and Solo, I don't, but I don't think I've ever called those who love those movies a shill. If you like those films, more power to you! :) But I don't, and whereas you pronounce your dislike of the Prequels, I pronounce my dislike of most of Disney Star Wars.
Did you like Solo too? You didn't say.

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If someone even mentions the P word concerning Star Wars, do you always feel the need to launch into a furious tirade about how YOU personally don't like them?


Sometimes it gets to a point where you realize it might just be best to ignore certain repetitive, clamoring for attention types.

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His reviews even have IMDb pages: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1518150/

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Considering how hard those phonies shilled for TFA after getting famous off of nitpicking the prequels to death I could absolutely care less what "Plinkett " has to say anymore.

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They have hated on every Star Wars movie since TFA.

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So they deserve credit for shilling for something as terrible as creatively bankrupt as TFA because of the blind hype surrounding it & were only willing to criticize other bad Di$ney Star Wars films once it was "safe"? The kneejerk hype & denial had died down & audiences in general were becoming more open to criticism of what Di$ney was doing with the franchise. It's just as they only got their big come up off of bashing the prequels well after it was already trendy and "hip" to do so. As far as i'm concerned they are cowards & disingenuous hypocrites who tend to sway which ever way the wind is blowing.

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They slammed Rogue One despite it being pretty popular. Also, shills gave TLJ and Solo rave reviews, but they didn't. You should watch their channel if you're going to comment on them.

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The hype decline was a steady, gradual thing. Rogue One (a way less shi*t film btw)had nowhere near the hype surrounding it as TFA, so no they don't get credit for that as by then they already had quite thoroughly flushed their credibility down the drain by shilling hard for a plagiarized soft reboot dumpster fire. And that after all of their supposed self righteous, nitpicking fury lobbed at the prequels which made them popular. I'm not interested in anything RLM who i consider phony & cowardly opportunists have to say but that being said don't let me stop you from watching their stuff. I'm not on a crusade here.

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Yeah because if anyone disagrees with your view they are a Disney shill. Nice logic there.

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I find it funny how it is impossible for someone to enjoy something someone else doesn't without being labeled a shill. You are too insecure to say well I wasn't a fan of this, you have to take it a step further by saying anyone who enjoys this is a shill. You are in so much need for validation it blocks you from having any kind of logical thought. I dislike Pulp Fiction guess what I realize it's beloved by the majority and I'm okay with that. I don't think there's some secret conspiracy as to why people like it I just don't. I don't call anyone a shill or even a fanboy, They just enjoy something I don't.

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