Did Marvel kill Star Wars ??


seems so

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No, Disney did, Star Wars is not an event anymore if you have 5 films in 4 years, especially when quality is mediocre at best

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I think Star Wars is no longer an event ANYWAY. After all, let's face it, the main story has been told, and all there is now is reboots and "greatest hits" crap and "subverted expectations" shit.

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Awokeness killed Star Wars.

And it killed Marvel comics too. And it seems that it's gonna kill Marvel movies once Endgame is done.

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you think so ?

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Everything goes in cycles. Marvel comics will come back around with crazy shit like Eddie Brock trying to bang a 15 year old when he's in college, or having brothers and sisters screwing each other like in Ultimates 3. The entire SJW era is about to roll over anyway.

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Just your usual false narrative. The original trilogy tried for "woke" as well, was "feminist" (but failed at that because it was George Lucas), and highly political with a strong liberal lean. Ah but see your kind never have a view of the big picture because it rejects your laughable cherrypicking propaganda strategy.

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1. The original trilogy leaned towards classic liberalism, which is a completely different ideology from modern SJWism/leftism.

2. The original trilogy was not highly political or 'woke' by any means, the same Ben-Hur could not be considered 'Christian woke'. Modern Hollywood movies, included Last Jedi, are not at 'Ben-Hur' or 'Star Wars a New Hope' political level, but at THIS level: https://topchristianmovies.com

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Well lots of reasons. Scifi/fantasy is no longer a niche thing. Just about everyone like it now and there is more product than ever before. Marvel Movies, DC movies, Harry Potter universe, Star Wars, Star Trek etc. All these properties are still producing product and more than ever before. When Star Wars first came out it was a sfx masterpiece. Each movie after pushed the envelope. People looked forward to what will they would do next. Return if the Jedi was an awful film but THE SFX was the real star and it did well. Today Sfx have hit a ceiling. Story matters and Quality matters now. Not SFX and quantity.

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Return if the Jedi was an awful film


Quite the opposite, actually.

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Not really. I was a kid when I saw it and i knew it was the silliest crap. Teddy bears and Han acting like a goof the whole time. Its the worst out of all the Star Wars films....

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Oh, really?

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.You wouldn't know quality if it was staring right at you. You are of the ilk who can't hate anything about TOT. ROTJ IS THE BIGGEST PIECE OF CRAP TO COME OUT OF STAR WARS. you are blinded by nostalgia. IM NOT.
-Han trying to blow out a fire with his breath.
-Han,Chewie,Luke, 3po and
R2 caught in a primitive net snare
-Teddy Bears killing store troopers
I could go on..
TPM is better than that crap...

Oh and I WAS being poilite before. How's this for not being polite????😂😂😂😂....
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TPM is better than that crap...

ROTJ IS THE BIGGEST PIECE OF CRAP TO COME OUT OF STAR WARS


Now I'm a staunch defender of the Prequels, but even that is stretching it.

Besides, you're only mentioning certain things you didn't like. So you DID like Jabba's Palace with all the puppets?

And not Attack of the Clones or Last Jedi? I smell troll here.

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I didn't really like ROTJ when I was 12 and I dont now. There are some good things of course but the Bad outweigh the good. The prequels have flaws as well but I enjoy the more serious overtones of those films. So sorry not a troll....

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I don't think I've come across anyone who hated an OT movie more than a PT movie before.


-Han trying to blow out a fire with his breath.
-Han,Chewie,Luke, 3po and
R2 caught in a primitive net snare
-Teddy Bears killing store troopers


- Well, Han knew it was hopeless trying to put out a torch, but Lucas' typical humour dictated he try anyway.
- The Ewoks obviously observed our heroes and saw that one of them (Chewie) was very much like them, so they set up the dead animal that Chewie fell for, causing the snare to erupt around them as they tried to stop him. And I think Luke would've succeeded in lightsaber'ing out of the net if R2 hadn't beaten him to it with his cutting saw.
- The Empire totally underestimated the Ewoks in their belligerency, and paid the price for it. I don't know if you like Lord of the Rings, but if so, the scene with the Ents trashing Isengard and ruining Saruman's plans must've really irked you, too. It's basically Nature Overcoming Technology, it's a standard trope in stories.

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I like all the films. But in the end it is ROTJ that I would want to watch last. Also my favorite is ROTS. One of the biggest criticisms of the prequels was Jar Jar. Which I found completely baffling because the Ewoks are even sillier. The prequels were probably the darkest and most serious of all three trilogies.

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Fair enough :)

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See now you got me feeling bad about losing my cool...I will have to edit my post from yesterday a bit...lol

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Sorry for my rudeness, too.

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Nothing is sillier than Jar Jar stepping in poop...

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Han trying to blow out fire with his breath is sillier ..

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no... sure it is silly but still part of what is going on... why have someone step in poop for no reason at all...

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Marvel showed how to write good stories, build character arcs and to build suspense and interest in a saga. It was done well.

Star Wars did none of these things and seems to be run by amateurs.

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Nope. Fanboys and fangirls kept paying for anything star wars and Disney kept putting it out until it was a glutted market.

People dumb enough to pay for crap get more crap.

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The Marvel movies and characters are super hits right now and all the plots are well thought out and they obviously have put some time in planning all the character arcs and story arcs to bring them all together and to put together a good story and have everything converge in these two super successful and popular "Infinity Wars" and Endgame" films.

Too bad Star Wars didn't put these guy in charge of Star Wars. They seem to know what they are doing. Those in charge of Star Wars have created a massive clusterf***

I grew up a Star Wars fan....not a comic book fan, yet I loved Infinity Wars and Endgame and I could re-watch both. I plan to re-watch both of them.

I saw The Last Jedi one time and have no desire to see it ever again and I have no interest in seeing "The Rise of Skywalker". Amazing how the people in charge of these films and products have put out a string of products that 1, have a none comic book guy gladly seeing comic book films and ready to watch them over and over again and 2. at the same time has a got it to where a life long Star Wars fans couldn't care less about it anymore.

To me, Star Wars has be HORRIBLY run, managed, handled and those in charge appear to be incompetent.

I've said it many times but I can't stop saying it. I still can't believe that they got into this without a framework plan for how these 3 films were going to go, a bare bones skeleton layout for the overall direction and how each of the characters would be developed and how their arcs would flow from one film to the next and what the general pay off in the last film would be. I can't believe they just let each director make it up as they went along and played Star Wars mad libs with the plot. That was idiotic. The overall trajectory and story arcs are so discombobulated it is pretty much unsalvageable now.

I can't believe Star Wars isn't even close to being in Marvel's league. A comic book to life saga is running laps around Star Wars in quality.

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no, Marvel and Disney didn't kill Star wars. the fans did. lol

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I thought you told me two weeks ago it wasn't dead? Change of heart? Or just Canadian logic?😂

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no. Star Wars is not dead.

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But you said the fans killed it. Wait...is star wars a zombie now😳

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On life support ?? 😢😢😢

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Like the general discussion board.

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Star Wars killed Star Wars.
The bad writing, planning, story telling is killing Star Wars.

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I think Star Wars simply ran its course. I think that's why George sold it. He could have finished out Clone Wars, cranked out a few more video games, published few more novels. But it had basically ran its course.

Hell, didn't they make like a 100 eps of that Seth Green cartoon and then just shelve it? Crash and burn. Fan fiction taking over. It was just done.

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Marvilizing Star Wars by interrupting every serious scene with cringe comedy hurt SW, so yeah kind of.

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