Anyone Buying JJ Abrams Not At Fault For This Movie Fiasco?


A Reddit leak and a rogue movie editor are blaming Disney for this disaster. Disney supposedly went as far as editing the movie without Abrams knowledge. He was against the Reylo kiss, too. And now an actor is asking for the director's cut. NO THANKS! We fans have been punished enough!

I'm not buying any of it. I'm sure Disney came up with lousy ideas, but Abrams went along with them. Someone DIRECTED the Rey and Kylo kiss. And lazily DIRECTED the spaceship battle. And hired a hack DC movie writer as well as recycled the long dead Palpatine which made no sense.

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Not buying it for a minute, and I think the whole Reddit thing is a ridiculous attempt to shift blame for the finished film.

Sure, I'm sure the studio made changes that he didn't like and cut things that he wanted to keep, but the idea that there's a vastly superior J.J. Director's Cut somewhere in an alternate universe is just silly. IT WAS DIRECTED BY J.J. ABRAMS, HOW GOOD COULD IT BE?

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I don't buy it either. He was there from the beginning and was one of the key architects of the disaster that became the sequel trilogy.

But I don't think the details of TROS can be considered in isolation. The problems with TROS are just the ultimate manifestation of the two main problems with the sequel trilogy: 1) there was never a story 2) the source material (Episodes I-VI) was alternately either ripped off in an obvious and amateur fashion or invalidated by whatever new material they chose to add.

If you want to tell a story in three parts, first you need to write a story. Then you tell it in three parts.

If that three-part story is itself part of a larger nine-part story, you have to work within that established universe. You don't destroy, ex post facto, the characters, story and mythos of the first six parts.

They broke both rules and got themselves into deeper trouble with every movie as a result. The ridiculous plot of TROS is the screenwriter equivalent of the desperate thrashing of a drowning man.

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Or the screenwriter equivalent of the condemned man who will be hanged from a gallows the next morning.

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Seriously anyone entertaining such transparent 'Team Jar Jar' damage control propaganda & the idea that there is a secret "good" Jar Jar cut of TROS that Di$ney purposely sabotaged (LOL!) is either just trying to get clickbait views on youtube and/or they are naive masochists asking for it when these mega conglomerates like Di$ney and hack filmmakers like Jar Jar screw them over.

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How is JJ responsible for any of this?

Has anyone seen "The Last Jedi"? What, exactly, is there left for the third film? There is no hook, or anything to build off at the end of that movie. Rian Johnson killed Snoke and replaced him with nothing, so that story line just ends. He gave Luke a character arc that a lot of people hated and then resolved it... and then killed him, so that story line is dead. Holdo blows up the 1st order fleet, with a made up maneuver that alters space battles for ever, and that ends. Captain Phasma is killed... again, and her story is done. You see where I'm going here?

I can't even imagine being tasked to write a third film after TLJ. JJ and Terrio must've been irate and pulling their hair out. "There is fucking nothing left to do!!!!" "We're gonna just have to make up some crazy shit because Rian left us nothing."

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Johnson nor Abrams know how to write a trilogy. All three movies should've been written together by one person to make it coherent. Abrams created "mystery boxes" with no answers provided. I doubt if he had any since he didn't intend to do any more movies. And like you wrote, Johnson ended all the storylines in the middle instead of placing them in peril and having it continue into the last film.

But, a semi-decent writer could easily create a way to continue the story and make it interesting. I read a false leak that did.

BTW, one movie ended the world, but still found a way to create three more sequels:
Beneath The Planet of the Apes ended the world. Escape from the Planet of the Apes was the sequel in which they went back in time before the explosion.

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Not really sure but it seems TROS is just a scapegoat film even Disney is not supporting it and JJ through the media like they did with TLJ/Rian Johnson which somewhat feels very fishy.

There's probably bad blood between Disney and JJ and both parties don't really care anymore about the ST..."let's make money out of it and that's it"





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