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Why does Rey have to be related to someone?


I have seen so many different theories on who are Rey's parents. I have asked this question elsewhere but I thought making it its own topic would increase the number of discussion.

My theory (and this is because I hated the character) is because the character is empty so people have to attribute an important relationship to her so they can like the character by association.

What do other people think? why does Rey seemingly have to be related to someone important/already established in the series?

p.s. please try to keep this on topic if you want to answer. I do not want to see this turn into a "you just hate rey because you are sexist" discussion. That has happened like a dozen times already.

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Because it's SW tradition. Luke, Leia, Vader, Han through marriage, Kylo... why leave out Rey?

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The only related characters out of the dozens in the OT were Luke Leia and Vader. We already have a relation in Kylo so why must Rey also be related to someone. Do we really need every character to be related to someone? Does Finn need to be related to Lando or Mace Windu?

I find all the theories on Who are Rey's parents kind of annoying because TFA really did not give us much to go on so it could literally be anyone or no one. Which makes all the speculation empty.

If Rey ends up being another Skywalker it is going to be predictable and not very satisfying. But if she is not a Skywalker it is going to be pointless, unless they somehow intend on not making her the main character; or if they plan on changing the story to not about the Skywalker family anymore.

It just feels like lazy mystery for the sake of it that will ultimately led to a unsatisfying conclusion.

Edit: I also feel it worth mentioning the ROTJ revel that Leai was related was absolutely stupid and one of the worst parts of the last film (the other being the Ewoks). It screamed of contrived plot to tie up lose ends because Lucas decided he wasn't going to do a sequel trilogy so he just closed the book on the "there is another" at the end of ESB. It really was a rather pathetic attempt to top the "I am your father" revel too. Everything about it was terrible. Rey being another Skywalker I think would be even worse especially since they went so much out of their to show her off while making just so unique and mysterious. God every time I think about how crappy her character (or lack there of) was i get so annoyed; especially since so many people liked her. I really do think she is the worst written and developed character ever (i mean JAR JAR has more of a backstory and character development then her).

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As Spock would say, the reason is purely logical:

The Star Wars trilogies are a Skywalker family saga.
Rey is the star of the last trilogy.
Therefore, Rey is a Skywalker.

Different answer re: Leia. Two men and one woman. Hero usually gets the woman for a happy ending. The hero is Luke. Having Luke and Leia become siblings removes Luke as a romantic rival. Han gets the girl. Luke gets a sister. Han and Luke can continue to be best friends. Happy ending for all!

I saw a similar solution on a TV show once. Two men and one woman. It turned out that one rival was an angel in human disguise which removed him as a rival and gave him a happy ending. The other man got the girl. Happy ending for all.

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"The Star Wars trilogies are a Skywalker family saga.
Rey is the star of the last trilogy.
Therefore, Rey is a Skywalker."

Kylo is the Skywalker already. Does rey need to be too?

"Leia. Two men and one woman. Hero usually gets the woman for a happy ending. The hero is Luke. Having Luke and Leia become siblings removes Luke as a romantic rival. Han gets the girl. Luke gets a sister. Han and Luke can continue to be best friends. Happy ending for all!"

yes because it tied up that lose end of a possible rivalry between han and luke it was poorly contrived and IMO weakened the movie overall. Everything was just too clean.

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"Kylo is the Skywalker already. Does Rey need to be too?"

The protagonist is a Skywalker. Kylo isn't the protagonist.

It seems they could be repeating Empire Strikes Back. Hero Luke discovers he's related to bad guy Vader and he's mentored by old Jedi Obiwan. Now heroine Rey discovers she's related to bad guy Ren and she's mentored by old Jedi Luke. Fans will complain.

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"It screamed of contrived plot to tie up lose ends because Lucas decided he wasn't going to do a sequel trilogy so he just closed the book on the "there is another" at the end of ESB."

Vader being Luke's father was contrived, too, just for drama and because Lucas was surprised to be able to make a sequel. This plot point even contradicted what he'd already had Obi-Wan tell Luke about Vader killing his father. In A New Hope, as it was written, Vader is just an unrelated warlord, as planned, and had actually killed Luke's father.

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"Vader being Luke's father was contrived, too, just for drama and because Lucas was surprised to be able to make a sequel."" In A New Hope, as it was written, Vader is just an unrelated warlord, as planned, and had actually killed Luke's father."

It may have been contrived but it didn't feel forced. And the manner in which it was set up actual worked very well. According to Lucas he always planned on Vader being Luke's father, but set that aside for the first movie.

"This plot point even contradicted what he'd already had Obi-Wan tell Luke about Vader killing his father. "

It does a little bit but the very clever line of "Ben, why didn't you tell me" lets the audience know right away what is going on. Obi-Wan lied. Why he lied remained a mystery but that repeated line "why didn't you tell me" is very important for the mystery to work and not be contrived nonsense. Also Vader has to be obsessed with Luke for a reason; we get the reason at the end of the film. So we have a mystery of how and why but not the what who or when. It answers the most important parts. TFA and Rey leave us guessing the who, what, when, how, why and even where in some cases.

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It definitely works well, I agree with you on that.

Actually, just to make all clear, I also agree that Leia being revealed as his sister was weak and unfulfilling. From what I understand, the comment about "There is another" was written because Lucas was planning to bring in a new hidden Jedi (ostensibly to assist Luke) in Return of the Jedi, which would have made that title even more sensible.

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That's how the movie was written. She spoke of her family returning for her, she marked the days on the wall, we saw her vision. The questions are all there, but we have to wait for the answers. The buildup was intentionally intense to keep fans talking about it and theorizing and anticipating the next movie.

Of course she's related to an already established character. Finn's backstory was explained in about 2 seconds. Poe's story is in the books. If Rey were to have a similar, not too significant, backstory, it would have been explained quickly. Instead, it was shrouded in symbolism and mystery.

If she's not related to someone significant, that is really terrible story telling, and may fans are going to be po'd.

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". The buildup was intentionally intense to keep fans talking about it and theorizing and anticipating the next movie. "

I am not against this practice in theory, but they way they applied in TFA I think really hurts the narrative. We are literally left with nothing to go off of and all the theorizing is just empty speculation which i find annoying and frustrating.

It is like getting a puzzle that has a majority of the pieces missing for 2 years.

"If she's not related to someone significant, that is really terrible story telling, and may fans are going to be po'd."

right this is what I am saying; the character as I see it now must be related to someone because she is not complete or interesting enough to be able to stand on her own merit. Also no matter what the answer is not everyone will be satisfied. i think if the answer is too simple (like she is a Skywalker) it will feel underwhelming and unsatisfying. If it is too complicated (She is Palpatine's daughter or some miracle of the force) it is going to have the same effect that space jesus anakin had in TPM.

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Star Wars Episodes (I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX) have always been about the Skywalkers, I see no reason that Rey is not related to Luke Skywalker.

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"I see no reason that Rey is not related to Luke Skywalker."

We already have Kylo related to Luke. Does every character have to be related? Can no one stand on their own.

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"Why does Rey have to be related to someone important??!!! Because the main films are called the Skywalker Saga. If the Skywalker are not the focus, then it's a spin-off, which the episode films aren't."

I'll say it again, KYLO IS ALREADY THE SKYWALKER; does every main character need to be one? Obi-wan was not a skywalker, Han was not, Qui-gon was not, yoda was not, Lando was not, Finn and Poe are not. In the PT only Anakin was a main character was a skywalker. In the OT we did not find out about Leia until the last (and it did not help the narrative).

"Rey is a Skywalker."

What if she is not? what if she is a Jinn; Kenobi; Palpatine; or any of the other ridiculous theories I have heard? what if she is not even the main character and it is actually supposed to be Kylo? And if she IS a Skywalker why keep it a secret because ultimately it is too simple and predictable to be a satisfying mystery?

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LOL it autocorrected Maz to Mao for you as well, did that to me yesterday.

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It's as good a name as any.

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Because we have been teased about her family being a big secret since the first trailer for the Force Awakens.

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