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This program starts with racist assumptions and tries to prove them.


Looking into unusual artifacts in North America? Great. Brining attention to little known North American history? Great.

This guy starts with the premise that everything in North America must be from Europeans. Nothing can't be from sophisticated culture *other than* Europe according to Scott Wolter. Mr. Wolter's stretches of the imagination and travels to prove to himself that artifacts are either A) it's not recent graffiti or B) it's impossible that Native Americans could do anything.

Obviously, this displays a sheer bias.

Native American society was far, far, less primitive as believed by Mr. Wolter who seeks to make it as dumb and simple as possible. North America was a complex of many societies with sophisticated culture. Apparently he's never read of Cahokia. Cahokia was a massive center of trade of *millions* within North America. Like the South American cities, it rivaled many European cities in sophistication.

The words 'apparently' and 'presumably' are out of his language. Please: take things with a grain of salt— metric or otherwise. He even refuses to believe a tall person could be from anywhere other than northern Europe. Tall guy? Must be a giant— and… from Scandinavia.

He just ends every statement where he's told he's wrong with "but what if [Europeans or Egyptians] made their way to North America? Would that not be important?"

Yes, Scott. It would. No one if denying that. What they deny is that Europeans did everything way before anyone else. And if not, you'll find scratch marks to prove it.

But you cajoling around thinking anything and everything is a sign of white dudes in North America before Columbus isn't proving anything. Other than maybe you see some graffiti that looks like Location X in Europe so you will travel on the company's dime there for a holiday. And you assume that Europeans did everything from scratches on rocks to rock structures in New England.

I could make the same argument that if X really did prove Y that no one believe it would be a great discovery. Unfortunately for Mr. Wolter and well everyone else without evidence that idea is at best fantasy.

We already know Norse people made their way to North America before Columbus (look it up!) and Basque people had a fishing empire in North America before Columbus (look it up!). And Cahokia was a thriving metropolis without white people and before Columbus (look it up!).

This is not conspiracy. This is cool.

We know there was just one of many massive cities in the are called St Louis which was a beacon of trade before Columbia and was a sophisticated society (look it up!).

How fun is that? "This history we were taught is wrong?" Yes. But don't just make it up. There's no need to see scratches as proof that some white guy was here before. That's called belief in racist superiority. There are so many interesting things that dedicated scientists, anthropologists, and researchers are only scratching the surface of. Things that we will know and will know soon as real evidence surfaces. Things that unlike Mr. Wolter's 'evidence' paint a fascinating picture of North America. So fascinating we don't need made up fantasy.

No reason to fabricate a "white guy with the holy grail and secret knowledge" quest for everything. There's already unknown stories of (non-white, and some white) people that are, well, pretty cool. Best part is you don't need to highlight scratches in a cave to prove it— as it's true. And interesting.

Again: look up Cahokia.

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Please excuse my complete ignorance as I ask this question. Since the American Indian Nations have been here so long wouldn't they have stories of these "cross" men coming here scratching on rocks, building a tower & hiding treasure? Have any of these "historians" come and asked the different Nations about this!?! I don't know how long Native Americans have been here and I keep finding different answers so I can't compare the time to the arrival of the Templars. I'm quite worried my question is laughable but I hope not offensive. It just seems to me if there's nothing in Native American history then it likely didn't happen. (Same with the crossing from Siberia. I would think there would be an oral history of "the great crossing".)

I would like a recommendation of a book or website, really anything about the accurate history of the Nations, if you don't mind. I'm bed bound & spend my time trying to educate myself about all those things that I always wanted to go further into but didn't have or make the time. I like that my kids learn about the over all history of Native Americans as well as those who lived in this area. That it's no longer religated to the Pilgrim history. Sadly my knowledge is mostly based on going to the Chucalissa Village & lessons in elementary school.

Thank you for your time in answering me. It is most appreciated.

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The American Indian were to occupied with the Ancient Aliens to notice all the Europeans running around the country side.

A good overview of pre-Columbian can be found in Charles C Mann's "1491: New Revelations of the Americas Before Columbus"

Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth.

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Now Buddha I know! Thanks for the book recommendation.
I tried Ancient Aliens tonight and lasted for less than 2 minutes! Between this and the Ancient Astronaut groups I haven't stopped shaking my head in disbelief yet! But that might be because my parents are reptilian time travelers.

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akolson-1:

Scott Wolter is on a Freemasonic, white supremacist hayride.

Worst part is that he becomes surly, if people do not agree with him.

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The whole series reeks of American exceptionalism. Of course the Ark of the Covenant would be in America (and real). Of course our white ancestors were giants and freely roamed America, preparing it for us.

The truth in science and history is often so much more compelling, and empowering, than fiction. Who needs a myth about chicken soup when antibiotics can truly cure? Sure the Northern Lights are pretty, but how amazing is it to understand solar storms and the magnetosphere?

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The Ark of the Covenant will be found in Ireland within two years and you can take that to the bank!

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LOL and the type of bud you smoke is?



"There are no superhuman powers, only people with superhuman delusions."

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Mr. Scott Wolter, the racist anti-American Indian right wing Tea Bagger.

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Exactly how is he racist for thinking symbols that don't match any known symbols of Native Americans but do match European? Also, how exactly was Cahokia so "sophisticated" as you put it? The ruins there are giant dirt mounds. So moving dirt into a pile is sophistication to you? No metal tools or signs of advanced buildings are there. Not even buildings made of sculpted stone. Europe had gigantic highly architecturally advanced castles everywhere at this time period.

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Give it up man. These are the same people that would believe the sky is red if the government told them it was.

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Also, look up Etowah in Georgia, another sophisticated precolumbian site. More proof of sophisticated Indians.

Go, Miami Redhawks!!!

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I just started watching these, and I'm only a few episodes in (something fun to watch from the corner of my eye, on my second monitor while I work).

However, I don't get the 'racist' label on this guy, simply for questioning stuff. His very first episode was about how the Mayans might have had settlements in North America. Not exactly that outlandish, and hardly "Europeans did it!" ;-) 3rd episode he's trying to find some link to the Minoans. It might be BS (only just started the episode), but again, hardly "Europeans did it!"

The guy might be stretching everything to breaking point, and reading far too much into things, and accepting things that are probably fake (the 2nd episode was a bit dodgy, considering his 'expert' on runes in the UK is a guy who writes books on "Is the moon hollow?"), but I think calling him racist for investigating potential historical anomalies is as much of a stretch as some of his 'facts'. ;-)

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