You people are disgusting


Ignorant, judgmental, jackasses. But then this is IMDb, par for the course. You can't get over your own biases to see how much better the lives of these children for having been adopted. How stupid and selfish are you to see this only through some "screw Americans" lens. Disgusting human beings, the lot of you.

You have no idea how sad and damaging it is for children who never get adopted. You want to bitch because Americans adopted them? THEY ARE BETTER FOR IT. You selfish America hating morons. If no Russians were lining up to help those kids, what moral or intellectual justification do you have to condemn loving parents raising children who otherwise would have nothing?

And so much nitpicking about the mistakes the parents make in the first couple months. So hypocritical and damning, I'm sure if someone did a psych profile on any of you idiots going on about the parents you wouldn't come out as mother or father material.

Everything all of you were bitching about essentially expressed no interest in the actual well-being of the children. More interest in respecting Russian culture, or their language than realizing the best way for the kids to succeed was to truly be adopted and fully immersed, which necessarily means letting go of some things for the time being.

The end showed a loving happy family with kids who had entirely adjusted and all were the better for it, what in the hell gives you the right to condemn that outcome?

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The bottom line is that these people adopted the children for the wrong reasons. I'm sure it made them feel good to think they were helping, but their intent was to fill a deep void within their own lives, not to help kids in need. The Diaz family was not malicious in any way, but Not prepared emotionally or practically to take on the needs of these children. It also appeared they did very little to prepare their daughter, nor assist her in her own emotional distress following the adoption. Watch the very last 15 seconds of the film very closely. I believe it sums up all the concerns people have for this family.

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They never said a word about helping kids in need. You are projecting. They said they wanted more kids, which is the same reason most people have or adopt kids. Parenthood is not about altruism - it's about fulfilling your own desires, and there's nothing wrong with that. People have an innate desire to have children because that's what perpetuates the species.

Masha appeared to be blossoming as the movie progressed. You see one scene in which you think her mother didn't give her what she wanted and are ready to paint the mother as a bad parent and worse. Well, guess what? - no mother ever always gives her kids what they want at all times. All of our parents are flawed human beings with feelings and needs of their own, and all of our parents sometimes disappoint and hurt us. It's life.

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The fact that you see a 'loving, happy family with kids who had entirely adjusted' at the close makes me think you didn't watch all that closely, but you really need to calm down about this movie.

There are a lot of people out here who don't 'hate America' but we don't think these kids got the best parents they could. I'm wondering what Masha will have to say about her emotionally cold mother when she's a grown woman.

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First of all, I agree with you.

Second of all, I disagree with you.

I don't hate Americans! The people are just like any other people.
I hate the American Government! But who doesn't?
Check this out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wC42HgLA4k

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Haven't seen the movie...just stumbled upon this board.

But it's worth noting that international adoption has become extremely difficult. All kinds of regulations put in place now. Not sure when this couple adopted but I doubt they'd get the green light now from what I've read on these boards.

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Jelly-4 is absolutely correct.

Since the Diaz family adoptions, the STRICT (and severely red-taped) Hague Convention regarding international adoption was put into place in the U.S. on April 1, 2008. Since then, Russia has banned the U.S. from all adoptions. Meanwhile, international adoption has dropped by 85% as of today. This is because the rules and requirements are very tight, difficult to navigate, time consuming, and extremely limited.

You can no longer receive a foreign child(ren) without new special courses via the Hague Convention Approved home study which includes an entire course on Attachment Disorder, and longer waiting periods for approval from Homeland Security, FBI, and state police. There are also new demands on the physical and psychological health profiles of adoptive parents (e.g. more specific medical and mental history, no depression med usage, certain weight restrictions to avoid obese parents), more invasive study of your life and all finances, and an increase in the years of follow-up (photos, reports, etc.) by the child's original homeland - if not followed thru as the country dictates, the fines may be expensive ($1000 average payable to agency in 2012). There are new guidelines for basic foreign language ability (for the older children) and an emphasis on the child's continuing connection to their homeland culture, and certain expectations of how to properly treat and interact with the orphanage staff, doctors, and court officials.

While the Diaz family would have been better prepared and more knowledgeable if adopting now, the new process would not allow for the three children at once (unless they're a sibling group like the twins). They would have been judged harsher, educated more in depth, and inspected beyond what they were. It takes many months to prepare and then YEARS to wait now. The point of the Hague Convention for Adoption was to ensure that children are no longer going to unstable, sickly, or ignorant families AND to ensure that the children themselves are proven without doubt to be officially orphaned (thru death, abandonment, or relinquishment). No stolen babies will get through, but eligible children are getting through at a snail's pace now...they are languishing for years and the government(s) is looking to reform some of the Hague procedures to better protect the children and reduce population while attracting potential adoptive parents again.

Many U.S. couples had previously turned to foreign adoption to either avoid the domestic problems due to the increasingly open adoptions that often require uncomfortable or heavy involvement with one or more birth parents (creating more of a "guardianship" of sort), but I'm not sure why the Diaz couple didn't adopt within the U.S. Afterall, they weren't looking for infants and there are numerous "waiting children" like Masha (and sibling groups like the twins) ready for a "forever" home.

It is NOT cheaper to adopt internationally either. It was about $40-50,000 per Russian child in 2012 (total for all fees, including paperwork processing/approval, home study, class courses, and agency costs). That's why the wealthy are generally those that have adopted internationally.

Moreover, ALL adoption is being impacted by the increased ease of Assisted Reproductive Technologies (ART) including IVF, donor egg/sperm, and surrogacy to make babies a reality for people whom in the past would've only been able to adopt.



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God forbid Americans should ever be critized. None of the criticism here is valid. Get over yourself.

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