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Nuff said. I am Mexican American and my family is one of respectable hard workers. We are not rich but we work. We don't kill or sell drugs. No wonder Americans don't want Mexicans here with this scum giving good people a bad name. They glorify a form of terrorism. I HATE when I see people dressed up singing the lyrics with smiles in their pathetic faces. so many innocent people who lose their lives to drug cartels. And people exploit and call it a way of life. Like they're proud. I'm ashamed.

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The main singer in the film exposed himself as a total fool, and the filmmaker did an excellent job of letting him do it on this own, no cheap shots.

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I agree. Just saw the film last night and thought it was brilliant how it was put together and shot. The lead singer did an excellent job at making himself look like a moron and show his absolute hypocrisy. I have had a long love affair with Mexican culture and it's such a shame to see such devastation. They fact that the Narcos have taken over a city as huge as Juarez I can't even imagine where Mexico will be 10 years from now.

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Drug production and distribution is work. It's government that interferes violently, creating violent side-effects. As a Mexican aren't you ashamed to have US agencies operating in your country without regard to the cost to Mexican life?

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What the HELL are you babbling about? What "government agencies" are "interfering violently"? The cartels kill with total impunity, torturing and beheading anyone who crosses them and YOU sit there and blame the American government for being violent. Drug and distribution is work, you say. So, in other words, it's a good thing? I feel sorry for you. More than that, I feel sorry for the Mexican people who only want to live their lives unmolested in Mexico but who must face the daily threat of cartel violence. I feel sorry for them also because fools like you praise the cartels. Sickening.

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Without the phony war on drugs fraud there would be no problem, I cant believe there are still morons out there in this day & age that still havent worked this out.
The US government are the instigators of all this mess, how you can blame poor people trying to better themselves being caught up in this, shows just how small minded & clueless you are.

This is all by design, so they can keep up the fear paradigm & you begging for more military style police & more private corporate $tate prisons.

Wake up fool.

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Being poor equates to low moral values and little social conscience being acceptable? Plenty of poor people across the world don't resort to dealing nasty drugs,hurting others or gloryfying the people that do.

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What are this "moral values" you speak of?

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by 'morons' I assume you mean people who want compelling evidence before buying into conspiracies.

I can agree about some of the citizens. They're born f'cked in an environment so bad that they shouldn't even need to ask for help. Yet it seems their best bet is rising up themselves risking their lives even more, while 2 governments know that and do very little.

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Troll here, disregard everyone

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There have always been violent groups of people. Since you know nothing of history you just assume that people always lived in peace before the age of centralized government. In fact, it was due to countless raids and massacres that caused people to form large communities and eventually nations. It was the anarchic violence of “liberatarian” societies that caused this.

The drug war has occurred for a variety of reasons--includng government policy-- but blaming government alone is ideological-driven *beep* These gangs fight over turf.(and the money and power that comes with it)What does the government have to do with that? I would say that it is the lack of a powerful government that causes this. The Mafia in the US, while powerful, always understood that there was a line they could not cross. As a result it was a much more controlled form of violence(e;g: targeting only other Mafian members and associates. (Never attacking cops, government officials, or civilians) that what the Mafia in Sicily or the cartels in Latin America are inflicting on their fellow citizens.

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a friend showed me a video of just that.. a REAL video.. they did something against the rules and the guy who "wanted" to die fastest had a chainsaw thru the neck the otherone an old knife.. sick how little they can think a life is worth

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They will never find a way out of this mess.
The only solution would be a military coup, general mobilisation of all armed forces, martial law, weapon possesion punishable by death, massive censorship of the Internet (especially all sites which have videos!), confiscation of money and property of the people who profit from drug trade (under martial law without trial), fierce retaliation on everyone who dares to put up resistance, imprisonment of all singers who sing narco corridos due to glorification of violence, and what not...
Good luck with that.

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All that would do is cause these gangs to move to racketeering, prostitution, hacking, etc. They also still could dominate in a legalized drug world. Since they have no concern for law they could ignore labor laws and produce their drugs at a much cheaper cost than legal mass producers. Or better yet, arrange a deal with legal producers to sell their product legally.

In short, yours is no solution.

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I thought this film showed the contrast of what's really happening in Mexico and how the "musicians" are making a profit from it in the U.S. It shows how brave the people working the front lines in Mexico are and how pathetic the people who love and play that type of music truly are. Only an idiot would see this movie and think it was glorifying the Narco Culture.

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That was really well said:) I find the musicians glamorizing such a lifestyle to be nearly as repugnant as the cartel bosses perpetrating it. I was heartbroken by the prisoner (can't remember his name) who talked about how sick he was after he murdered someone - he's obviously a dangerous person to have on the streets if he's willing to do something so heinous, but I wonder what lives he and other people like him would have if they weren't seduced by the cartels. Born in poverty, no money, no education, feeling there are no options. The cartels have created a societal disease that infects like a virus. And US citizens of Mexican descent, living in the relative safety of the U.S. (and basically doing eco-tourism below the border where they can get loaded and shoot things with impunity) like that a**hole musician are the carriers.

They're coming to get you, Barbara!

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I think you need to see Mexicans separate from the problem. The only reason why the movie is about Mexicans is... because it's in Mexico. Similar problems are across the world, the poorer the people, the more criminals.

What you need to ask yourself is if the problem is supply, or demand.

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Your typical American doesn't want Mexicans here because they're ignorant and/or selfish, don't encourage them. Coming from the other kind of American, who actually believes in original American ideals and helping those in need.

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Don't see what the problem is.. it's just music. The artist are a bit ignorant and inconsiderate.. that's the only problem I see...

It's not different than Gangsta Rap.. Hell, go listen to some Drill music (Chicago gangsta rap).. these are kids from Chicago no older than 16-20 years old making songs about gangbanging.. and some of them are actually the ones doing the shooting... it's no worse...

"I do the work of the devil, I'ma Hell of a guy"

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It crosses the line when you go from inspired subject matter to personal relationships with terrorists.

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Crosses what line? What terrorists?

Chicago had citywide shootings this past weekend with like 50-60 people shot and somewhere around 15 deaths due to gang violence...

"I do the work of the devil, I'ma Hell of a guy"

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I recommend that you look past what the drug trade has evolved into in Mexico, and to look at what has caused it. America's drug on war is largely responsible for all of the problems south of the American border. Not only that, but the American people are the ones who demand those drugs. How can you blame poor people for growing and selling drugs when it is so profitable?

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It may be right to blame the drug violence at least in part on American consumers but to blame government attempts to suppress the drug trade it is looking in the wrong direction. "End the War on Drugs" they say and all the problems will go away. Not so. What does this ending the war on drugs mean? That teenagers or younger can go into the nearest 7-11 and buy a gram of meth or heroine? Oh, you'll have restrictions? Tax it, license dealers, forbid sale to minors? Of course you'd be creating millions of new addicts in addition to the fact that there'd still be an illegal trade to bypass the restrictions. Kids would find it in their parent's homes, treatment centers would be overwhelmed. You think alcoholism is bad, wait till you get a flood of new heroine, cocaine and meth addicts in our communities.

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1. If you compare the war on drugs to the war on alcohol, you will find that they are very similar. During the days of prohibition, criminal organizations were created around the sale of alcohol. It made those organizations extremely rich, which led to extreme violence as they attempted to protect their interests. The same is happening with the drug on wars.

2. A better solution is to legalize drugs and to regulate them. This will take most of the funding that criminal organizations receive. This will lead to those organizations losing power, as well as losing interest in the use of extreme violence because they will no longer be protecting the large amount of money that they receive from the sale of drugs.

3. "Of course your'd be creating millions of new addicts in addition to the fact that there'd still be an illegal trade to bypass the restrictions." Why would the legalization of this drugs lead to millions of new drug addicts? With proper education the number of people who use drugs would be reduced, just as the number of smokers has been reduced with education and marketing.

4. "Kids would find it in their parent's homes." Kids already find those drugs in their parent's homes. The fact is that the drug on wars is not keeping people from getting their hands on those drugs.

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It's legal alcohol that makes me fear for the legalization of all drugs. (We can forget pot here, because its effects are relatively benign.) Think of the carnage on our roads, the alkies wallowing homeless on the streets and the devastation on the human body from too much hootch. Western civilization has a long history with alcohol and because of that we pretty much know how to handle it and consider it our right we don't want it forbidden. We're willing to accept the consequences and there's no harm in a glass of wine or 2 with dinner. From what you write I tend to think you've never really known any junkies or meth addicts. These drugs do not lend themselves to moderation. Heroine addicts can be maintained, but for Gods sake why make more heroine addicts? And meth makes people stark raving crazy and destroys both body and mind in short order. Yes, some kids can find drugs in their parent's home but most kids can't, except for a few downers and pain pills now and then. And of course the Ritalin they're given to keep them orderly. (Now there's a crime!)

The fact is, we really don't know what would happen. All that sounds good on paper, put the dealers out of business, reduce crime, educate the people to 'just say no'. But then communism sounded good on paper. Do you know any civilized country in the world that allows a free market in hard drugs like H, crack and meth? Oh yes, you can decriminalize the user so as not to put an extra burden on the poor addict, but to allow heavy drugs to flow freely in our communities? I rather think that since I've arrived at old age without ever being addicted to alcohol or any other major drug, even cigarettes, that I'd weather the storm. But I worry about my friends. I saw what happened to so many of them in the 60s.

In any case, don't blame the U.S. or the DEA or the police on crimes committed by those criminal scumbags in the drug trade. Blame should stick primarily to the perpetrators. Blaming economics is a copout.

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"The fact is, we really don't know what would happen."

We actually do know what would happen. You can take the prohibition era in the United States as an example of how making a drug illegal negatively affects society, and how making a drug legal and well regulated harms society less than making that drug illegal.

If you want a contemporary example of decriminalization, just look at Portugal. They decriminalized all drugs and report that drug abuse has decreased by 50%. Instead of fighting a was on drugs, which is a war that can not be won and a big waste of money, they began to deal with the problem in alternative ways that are much more cost effective and that actually deal with the problem.

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Portugal, as you say, is an example of user decriminalization, not legalization. Selling and trafficking drugs is still illegal. Users are limited to small amounts and have to submit to various restrictions and treatments. From what I read the data are unclear about whether use and addiction are reduced but seem to indicate they are at least partly successful. This is all good! Addicts don't wind up being criminals. But as to the effect on the drug trade in general, or whether criminal drug activity (except for users being labeled criminals) is reduced, I can't find any evidence of that. I think it's hard to tell from the example of little Portugal, and what effect that would have if applied to the U.S. is hard to say. Further study is needed.

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You conveniently left out the fact that the Mafia’s power exploded in the years after Prohibition was lifted. Decriminalization did nothing to solve organized crime or the violence that comes with it.

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@celr That's not how addiction works.

It doesn't matter if drugs/alcohol are legal or not, the number of addicts depends on how disconnected a user is from the society and the family they live in. Locking people up in prison for drug use or possession doesn't reduce addicts at all, it actually creates more because most who are locked up aren't addicts to begin with. It's almost impossible to get anything but a low paying blue collar job with a criminal record. Coping with stress of a low wages, long hours and little free time creates a strained financial situation that is a perfect storm for addiction.

The opposite of addiction is not sobriety either. There will always be usage of all forms of drugs. The users with no self control become addicts, the responsible users will live their lives peacefully and cause no harm to anyone (as they do now).

De-criminalization will without a doubt reduce both usage and addiction for a multitude of reasons.

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Why do we continue to skirt around the real and absolute solution to the drug problem in the US and the world? Decriminalization is not the answer. We should follow the example set by Singapore and enact stricter punishments for the selling and usage of all drugs. If death were the punishment for being caught with drugs, I guarantee we would see a dramatic decrease in the number of users.

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Completely agree, sir. My wife is a Latina, many of my friends are Hispanic and all of them were disgusted to see the stupid grins of the Americans singing, dancing and glorifying murder and cultural terrorism. Tragic.

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