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Ch-ch-ch-changes...!


Man, did they re-edit this thing between April of last year and now. Will go into more (fairly spoiler-free) detail later, but the cut of Aloft we saw in Minneapolis on Sunday was far different-- and slightly (slightly!)-- better than the mess I saw in Winnipeg (and, I think, different even than the cut that opened on the East and West Coasts in May). Biggest difference: adult Ivan (fighting the temptation to call him Big Ivan, because... nope, can't do it) comes off as a semi-abusive jerk who might actually (shock of shocks!) have a capacity for compassion, rather than as a semi-abusive jerk who is also a cheating a-hole. Hats off to the brave (re-)editor(s) who tackled this beast and made it (slightly) less awful....

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They re-edited it AGAIN???

What was the compassionate thing that Ivan did in the version that you saw? I watched it online back when it was released in May and the only thing I can think of was when he gives the pebble to Jannia towards the end so that she can be healed.. Other than that, he was still a total prick. And he still cheated on his wife and appeared to have forgotten she even existed judging by the total lack of any emotional repercussions afterwards. It makes Jannia extremely unlikable too. Even after all the re-edits it still only has a 15% rating on Rotten Tomatoes, which incidentally is the worst rated film of Cillian Murphy's career... even Red Lights got a better rating and that was one of the most awful films I have EVER seen.

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even Red Lights got a better rating and that was one of the most awful films I have EVER seen.


I think Aloft is winning here. It's a mess with not one likable character in it. Sorry Cillian but where's the good writing here? Maybe the script was a lot better?





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Okay-- and here goes with the spoiler markup (which sort of gives these posts the appearance of wartime-edited letters, don'cha' think?): in the version I saw-- wow, has it been two weeks ago?-- in Uptown, they cut Ivan's sex scene with Ressemore. Which-- and maybe this is shallow thinking on my part-- made it seem like, when Ivan pressed the pebble into her palm at the end, he was almost acting like a guy who could sympathize with the fear and desperation of the very sick woman with whom he'd been traveling, rather than a guy who was simply tending to his side-piece after leaving his wife to look after their toddler and his shack full of raptors. (But not velociraptors, of course. Which would have made for an infinitely goofier time at the movies.)

(Oh, and they ditched the Jennifer Connelly pig-barn sex scene, too. Just wish they would've gone for the trifecta, and zapped Ivan's wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am with Alice while they were at it. That one was completely unnecessary, too, and awkward as hell in the bargain.)

Few more notes, before I forget 'em: The opening sequence was completely out of order. Fun in the pig barn originally came first; thought it was a wise move, literally, to place more motion (Nana and the boys walking across that Winnipeg bridge to their healing-rally ride) at the beginning. And this is the biggest change: Nana's ending voiceover was missing from the Minneapolis version. Both a good choice and a bad one: while it tamped down the mallet-to-the-skull subtlety of the original ending ("Once there was a man who was walking across ice," and he fell through, and the darkness engulfed him, blah, blah, blah-- oh, reeeeaally?), it condensed the film's message-- or pseudo-message, or maybe-message-- to the point of truncation (Ivan releases Mohave into the sun-blasted winter sky, showing us that his-- meaning Ivan's, of course-- spirit-- free of pain!-- the pain he has carried his entire life!-- can now soar--!-- or something like that. THE END.).

One tiny cut, and one I didn't appreciate: Mohave perched like a watchbird on the handlebars of Ivan's bike, while Ivan and Ressemore talk in that crummy motel coffee shop. I liked that shot: it added a welcome moment of humor to Icy Dourland.

Re: Red Lights. At least his chemistry with Sigourney Weaver was pretty cool. One weird-- and very idiosyncratic-- thing that drove me nuts in that movie: the opening Foley work, when, during the pan-up from the asphalt of the road down which Margaret and Tom are driving, the sound editors try to persuade us that Margaret would own a circa-1980 Bonneville with a manual transmission. Especially when we see, later in the film, that the Bonnie is an automatic. Oh, no....

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Also the website has an image of her swimming, and the version I saw definitely did not have any such scene. Did anyone see a version that did?

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I don't remember seeing that scene either.

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Nope, no swimming on Nana's part, either in the original cut or the (Minneapolis) shortened edit.

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