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Progressive... to a point


You know, any race, creed, or religion, except for women. Women need to weave baskets and be damsels.

I get how they wanted to seem progressive by having all these people of different ethnic backgrounds in this Medieval "thous shalt not stain my honor"-fest, but the women in this movie are relegated to tradition roles. Just one of the Bartok knights being a woman would have been better -and that's the bare minimum it should have been.

So no matter how progressive a movie tries to be, women are cast aside and no one seems to notice. They are little better than property, despite the "strong" female character that is Raiden's wife. I'm also tired of the "strong female character" trope. I never hear of people saying, "Wow, that was a strong male character."

I'm sure some of you will respond with "stop pushing your agenda," or "this movie was aimed at men." But honestly, who doesn't want to see a woman kicking ass?

Oh, and if a woman is included among the knights, she shouldn't be just a love interest for one of the other knights.

Also, the main character is a white male, so you know, baby steps toward progressive story lines.

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The film is set in a pure fantasy world, and is based on the 47 ronin tale, which was about male warriors.

I think it would be odd to see a woman swinging a sword and doing well in a medieval style battle. They are just not physically able to do that. Even famous female knight Joan of Arc didn't swing a sword, she wore armour and held a banner but didn't actually do any fighting.

As a fantasy film you could have a female fighting and surviving a sword battle with multiple men, but as its so far removed from anything like reality maybe it was just not considered real enough for this fantasy.



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I can't stop laughing right now omg

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Stupid ass troll is stupid. Women have no honor? GTFOH.

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I'll agree and disagree. Women HAVE honor but it is different from that of men (just as a pimp's love is different from that of a square, but I digress...).

What dishonors a man and additionally a sworn knight, and what must be achieved to redeem that honor will be different for women in most cultures.

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OMG !!! Can people just give an opinion on a movie without having to push their political agenda ??!! Has our society fallen so far ??

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Tomoe Gozen. Look her up. She was a FEMALE samurai in the 12th century known for her strength and bravery. And as far as honor, women are not the gender well known throughout history for raping, pillaging and betrayal among MANY other reprehensible acts. So save your bigoted remarks for the few friends you are lucky to have you sexist pig.

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Lol ok so you have one example of a successful female warrior...compared to the thousands of famous male warriors I could list right now.

Do you paint your girlfriends toenails too? Do you even have a girlfriend? Or are you one of those confused types who can't decide what gender you want to be?

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Yeah, I just watched the trailer for this and thought the same thing...another movie where the 'chosen one' to 'save the world' is always a man. Master and knights....something important is missing.

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You want strong female characters, but don't want "strong female characters". Got it.

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Yeah I saw that...but I mean this is the exact type of logic I would expect from someone who likes to fantasize about a girl kicking 5 dudes asses

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So now every medieval movie has to have the cliche "brienne of tarth" character that is really the best fighter just happens to be a woman? It is a fantasy but based on a somewhat mix of real elements. Women were not trained as fighters like men so to believe every movie should have some super skilled fighter is not realistic. In a game of thrones setting with hundreds of characters I can see, but in a band of like 30 retainers in that era it's not plausible. Maybe in the vastness of the world in 1000s of years it happened occasion ly but to expect it in every group in every movie is ridiculous.

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i did not see midgets neither.

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