Are the HVF really bad guys?.

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I really was in two minds about the vicar and the HVF... Half of me thought they were dangerous fanatics... Half of me thought their attitude made a lot of sense - particularly if the authorities had failed to adequately protect people during the Rising... I think it's a sign of how well-written this is that you can sort of see where the "bad guys" are coming from... Mind you - the execution of the old lady in the street was completely unjustifiable... It'll be interesting to see how the boss HVF guy reacts to his son being a PDS sufferer.

I think it is a matter of how far they take it. And as we saw in the first episode they take the PDS very seriously. If they would have knocked on the guys door and told him and his wife to leave the area I could understand that but, dragging her out in the middle of the street and killing her execution style is way over the line.

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It is hard not to sound condescending when you are explaining things to an idiot!

They are afraid. People who live in fear react this way. That's the story.



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"It's called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe in it".

No... this isn't a good-bad guy show.

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It's not "sci-fi", it's SF!

No. You kill the undead which rise and attack humanity. So no, they aren't bad guys at all. That's the problem with trying to humanise monsters. It doesn't work.

There's the rational and the criminal:

A rational response is stopping an assault in progress, or notifying the police when you have knowledge of an assault so that they can be arrested. Note that not even police are permitted to go into someone's home, pull a sick old lady out onto the street, point a gun at her head, and cold-bloodedly shoot them EVEN IF that person is suspected of a crime. There's a really good reason for that, and that's because any society that tolerates murder will descend into chaos in no time.

Being afraid is a good rationale for calling the police, or for staying away from someone. If you know of a crime, you report it or you intervene to stop it. You don't commit crimes of your own. And being afraid is no excuse for that. Being afraid of an old sick lady who has just recovered from an illness is just pathetic.

The HVF is the same rationale for joining a gang to protect one's turf. It may make you feel safe, but don't fool yourself into thinking that you are actually protecting anyone. That's the same rationale used for gang violence, racial violence, ethnic violence, religious violence, and yes, anti-gay violence all over the world. And in any case, killing to protect is only used, even by the police, as a last resort.

Not all of the HVF are portrayed as bad... just those who listen and agree with the prejudice against the PDS-sufferers (I refrain from using the Z-word as it may offend some people).

And unfortunately it seems like many of the HVF members do that, which makes them bad. Jem included.

its a gray spot, i think if the PDS are dangerous and untreated then they could be put down, but after medicating them they are basically themselves again.