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The show is a homoesxual allegory


Is my reading. A few ideas:

Becoming "a zombie" is not a choice the person makes. At a certain point it just happens to them, similarly to how at a certain point, someone just realises they are gay. The MP says in the first episode the rotters didn't "choose" to attack anyone.

A big part of the show is family acceptance. Ren's sister refuses to believe he is the same person at first, and the act of "coming home" from treatment was akin to the act of "coming out". Ren's parents awkwardly and uncomfortably accept him.

There is a strong line of bigotry in the town and a refusal to accept the zombies. The town is portrayed as a bit hickish, so I feel this works with the gay-bashing backwoods town archetype.

Ric's dad is fiercely anti-rotter, until he finds out his son is one. This happens frequently with more conservative families.

Ric "became undead" and then came home from the military. It's flakey, but one could draw some don't ask/don't tell similes there.

Ric and Ren just seem to have that relationship. Ren states his world was empty without Ric, that he kept the idea of "them" alive when Ric left etc. He even said they "fooled around" (though that could be read as them just goofing off or hanging out).

There are also a bunch of little things - the one guy saying Ren would have fit in at a girls school, etc. During the first episode, a few specific choices of language stuck out to me, but I can't remember them all. I don't know if the schow is TOTALLY about homosexuality, but in the case of Ren, it seems to be a metaphor. What do you guys think?

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Yeh,thought it last week bit definitely after watching this weeks ep its bein used as a metaphor

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true i guess. you could say the same about WARM BODIES or TRUE BLOOD as well. i'm gay myself and i can relate a lot to what the zombies are dealing with (that sounds weird even as i'm typing this! LOL).

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"The show is a homoesxual allegory" You don't say! It is made by the BBC after all, and they aren't obsessed with homosexuality at all... Thought it was pretty rubbish actually, and no, that isn't a homophobic statement, it is really is juvenile garbage.

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um, ok.

i guess we all like what we like. i think the show is fantastic.

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Same 👊

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Not as if Channel 4 is any different...or Comedy Central. Threesome!

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If I SAY my comment isn't homophobic, no one will suspect a thing!

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i was actually making the link with racism more.the segregation in the pub.the public execution even complete with pick up trucks.the 'we dont want their kind around here' mentality...i guess it all comes down to 'fear of the unknown' though,and different peoples reactions...and 'juvenile garbage' is a bit harsh,theres many shows out there now that i would describe as juvenile formulaic garbage but this isnt one of them

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Initially I thought race too - however, for me it seems more like sexuality because at a certain point a person "becomes" a zombie/realises they are gay. The execution and segregation certainly evoke more motifs of racial tension though.

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But before one realize himself is gay, he's already gay. Life really doesn't change if he doesn't tell anyone. Maybe you're talking about the process of coming out? But coming out is still a choice to be made. According to this show, you can't control yourself turning into zombie, unlike coming out, I can choose to come out whenever I'm ready. So I say you're over thinking. This show is about prejudice.

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Two words: Matthew Shepard.

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Exactly! It isn't as much an allegory as straightforward gay series - acting, make up, agenda, why did they even throw zombies into this... Flipped through 2 eps - couldn't bear more. Mayhap it gets more substantial further in, but they've already lost me.

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At first I thought it was a metaphore for immigration but the homosexual idea makes more sense lol.

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I think it's an allegory of prejudice in general. I saw a fairly obvious link with mental illness, particularly psychosis, and the problems of treatment in the community. The community nurse, the medication, the false smiles, the fear, the information leaflets with smiling zombie faces. I was a mental health nurse and actually knew someone, diagnosed with schizophrenia, who changed his name to "zombie" by depoll.

I can equally see the allegory with racism and sexism, and I thought the first two episodes very superior tv.

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"As with all good metaphors, though, I think the series can be taken in many different ways."

Bingo!

We understand Partially Deceased Syndrome .

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I love this show so much! And I do agree that there seems to be a gay vibe between rik and kieren but having listened to many radio shows and reading articles about it it seems that the idea of this show was the idea of people with a mental disability, who many people see them as still being unstable while they are on medication and I think the bbc wanted to show what the world was like in the eyes of an outsider, especially people who could have been in psychiatric (excuse my spelling) hospitals. I feel this show has been really well done and I think they should definatly make another series, although all the actors in it have said they think there will not be another series because the 3 episodes meant it came to a conclusion!

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Has the creator confirmed 100% that their will not be a second season?

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No but he has not been told to think of ideas for a second series apparently, there was also an interview with the actors in this series and luke newberry (kieren) was asked if he thought there could be a second series to which he replied there could be but this series will be rounded off and concluded, not leaving It on a cliff hanger therefore not confirming there could be a second series! He also didn't say what most actors say when they are asked about second series "if there is I would love to come back for another" which could suggest *no confirmation and possible spoiler* that the zombies die ... I don't know if that will happen and I hope they don't but the fact thhe actor of kieren hasn't said he would want to come back for a new series does make it sound like he doesn't think a new series could have his character in!
But in answer to your question it has not been 100% confirmed there will not be a new series! So there is still hope!

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I don’t agree at all. Homosexuality was dealt with in an interesting fashion, it was hinted at quite openly but never became an issue in the story (although it left you wondering if it would eventually become the real problem). That it wasn’t an issue became more obvious after episode 3 when Kieran and his mother were talking together in the cave.

I think the series was making the point that there will always be prejudice; once one goes, people will chose another.

Of course there were many other issues raised too, the sensitive way in which suicide was dealt with was valuable for a time when so many young people are taking their own lives.

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I think it's more an allegory for prejudice in general, especially small village mentality prejudice.

As for the gay thing. I got a "history" vibe between Ric and Ren well before the mention of "fooled around" in the cave. I'm not suggesting they were boyfriends or anything, just that after a few ciders some shenanigans may have happened. Perhaps Ric ran away to the army because he was ashamed of what he thought he was, especially when you take in to account his extremely bigoted father.

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Errrrr...DUH!

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