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he's a dick spoiler

posted 9 years ago by s-holznagel
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I don't care how rocky a relationship gets if you're still married and your spouse isn't aware of the relationships end, as in a mutual agreement to see other people then the cheater is completely in the wrong. Cheating is cheating. Seriously he's like poor me my wife wants to be independent and make her dreams come true also and now she won't party with me so I'll just fill my sadness by cheating on her... It was both there faults that their relationship was sinking at first but him cheating was a death sentence for it. The coffin wasn't closed until he nailed it shut like he nailed those woman.

[–] s-holznagel 9 years ago

And he left her in a NOTE.. Freaking childish might as well been a divorce over text. seriously makes me dislike him even more. Ok rant over

[–] SallahTours 9 years ago

I think the note was a choice by the composer to keep the integrity of the structure he set up based it how it was written for the stage. I agree it doesn't really translate as well in the film. And writing a note like that was more a part of the times. The musical was first produced in 2002 (still before texting was a big thing) and it is based on a real relationship that happened more in the 90's.

ETA: Thinking about it now, she does tell him that she had been broken up over a letter before in I Can Do Better Than That. I don't know if that was intentional or coincidental on the part of Jason Robert Brown.

[–] BestOfAllPossible 9 years ago

The note never read to me as a break-up letter. If he's closing their bank account and packing his things out of the apartment, leaving his wedding ring behind, then they've already broken up and possibly even filed the divorce papers. For all Jamie's faults, I don't think he'd blind side Cathy that way.

And, on the subject of Jamie's faults, anyone can bring their own issues to the story and condemn either character. I've heard people rooting for and against both of them for various reasons. There are reasons to sympathize with each and things to hold against each.

I don't condone Jamie's actions, but I also know that it's a boring movie where everyone behaves as they should.

[–] s-holznagel 9 years ago

The text thing was an analogy but still that would of been a jerk way to leave someone during any time.

[–] sallyontheline 8 years ago

He was a jerk. He claimed to love her in the end but he ended up having sex with these other women because she didn't want to just rely on him supporting her and wanted to follow her dreams.

[–] rpressley 8 years ago

No excuse but I think he is a sex addict

[–] monarchgirl-1 8 years ago

Couldn't agree more. All I was saying for the last half hour when he did the woe is me I need to have lots of sex with people and be a complete @!#/ to Cathy and yes I get that she was a little Moody but how is she supposed to just sit back and just revel in his success while he is than supportive of her

[–] thedoctorwasme 8 years ago

The thing about Jamie is, he's a novelist and a romantic. He is in love with the idea of love, but when love becomes strained by the problems of everyday life, he tries to escape into an idealized world where romance, excitement, and danger exist. He also totally and completely does not grasp Cathy's struggle because he has such success and she has so many disappointments.

In "Nobody Needs to Know" we totally and completely see why he cheats; he feels Cathy has destroyed the one thing that is safe (his writing) by her resentments of his career. He also explicitly shows that he needs to be in a romance, he needs to be in love...and since Cathy isn't his idealized woman anymore, he needs someone else. And since I have to be in love with someone...Since I need to be in love with someone....Maybe I could be in love with someone....Like you."

That being said, there is still no excuse. Of the two, Cathy is far more levelheaded and Jamie isn't really equipped with the skills to be in a successful long-term relationship; he's fun for a while, but not husband material.