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Age of consent in Denmark is 15


hehe, they missed it by 1 month, if i remember correctly?

but who cares anyway?

good thing there are such realist movies like this providing extremely important service, otherwise we would forget that we are immortals, and it is not like we have any reason to grab any happiness by its throat and goddamn make sure we squeeze the last possible drop of pleasure out of it, as the plethora of pleasures just drown us anyway even during that 2 seconds we call a lifetime.

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Hmm, your points are all interesting, although I'm not sure how the notion of "gravely abusing superior age or experience" would have applied to their situation if they slept together

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3) Was Henrik, Effy's mom's boyfriend, coming on to Effy?

When was/did he ever come on to Effy? I don't know how you came to that conclusion.

The night at the club it looked like he was genuinely trying to protect her - questioning what she was doing there.

The next day when they met each other in the doorway, he was telling her it was forgotten because he didn't want her telling her mom he was out at a club. Basically, "I'll keep your secret if you keep mine".

If not, what was Effy going to tell on him about to her mom?

That he was out at a nightclub - probably picking up woman.

You got a bar to get a drink. You go to a club to dance with strangers. He was doing the latter.

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I just rewatched that scene. The camera cuts in to the two of them arguing. The only time he grabs her is when it looks like she tries to run off/walk away while he is lecturing her, and it's not in any way sexual in nature.

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you are imagining things.
even if they both feel sexual undertones, as normally people of opposite gender do, and that shows, then again during the exact same time the same people normally can handle their business with each other which is completely unrelated to any kind of sexuality between them, which is exactly what Eff and her stepdad been doing every time.

Basically your thoroughly tabloid rinsed brain is out for which hunt and you are verging on being deranged.

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The next day when they met each other in the doorway, he was telling her it was forgotten because he didn't want her telling her mom he was out at a club. Basically, "I'll keep your secret if you keep mine".


But he had already told the mother when he stumbled into her place at 4AM. And he was trying to tell her that he saw Effy there. So at that moment it seemed like he was trying to be a parent.

But what was there to keep quiet about after that? Very sleazy the way he tried to buy her off saying she can now go to the club.

The other explanations here about Effy being abused kind of make sense too. Poor Effy.

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but he had already told the mother when he stumbled into her place at 4AM.

True, but Effy's mom asked if he was with "Heidi". Earlier in the movie Effy said one of her friends' older brother works at the club (Culture Box), which is how she got in. I assume the guy who told Effy her step dad was at the club is her friend's brother. I'm sure her friend's brother also has stories/secrets about Effy's step dad, which he probably told Effy.

So at that moment it seemed like he was trying to be a parent.

Right, which only seems to further why he didn't sexually abuse her. Effy seems pretty smart and I doubt he would risk her telling on him if he had abused her. If his secret was something like meeting other woman, or going out to drink at night, that would be worth Effy's mom finding out to protect Effy (which he seemed to care about).

But what was there to keep quiet about after that?

There could be other secrets Effy's mom doesn't know about, including the "Heidi" woman. It's also entirely possible Effy has run into her step dad at the club before and that night wasn't the first time.

Very sleazy the way he tried to buy her off saying she can now go to the club.

Yeah, it was. This is probably why Effy decided to "tell mom" on him, even if it meant admitting she went out to the club too. She eventually grew up and became the bigger person of the two of them.

The reality is they both were guilty of something, and they each knew the others secret(s). It was just a bad situation where Effy's mom will have to find out (which the movie seems to imply at the end that the step dad was no longer a part of the family, when it was just Effy and her mom talking about going to Tivoli for her birthday).

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"I assume"; "probably"; "if his secret was something like"; "it's entirely possible." You've got a lot of supposition there, and more than you were allowing from the other poster for his/her idea. I think you're way off. Forget the supposition and various scenarios you've stacked up for a second, and just look at what's evident in the film. I think we're meant to initially see him as protective, and then the next morning is supposed to come as something of a surprise as his real motive is revealed.

1. He calls her five times the next morning. If it's because she's missing, why him and not the mother? Why isn't she concerned? Sure, he knows that she's out with some guy, but apparently, mom isn't even concerned that Effy never came home. (Although maybe she just thinks Effy was working overnight at the hotel? Even so, if he was that concerned about her, and in a parental way, not a jealous way, wouldn't he have involved the mother?) That, in and of itself, could be "fatherly" concern on his part, but then...

2. After he tells her "it's forgotten," she looks fearfully at him, up and down his body. He tells her "don't be afraid." Why? Why would she be afraid, if it's forgotten? And why does she keep looking down at his body? I suppose she could be afraid of physical violence (even though he said it was forgotten), except...

3. He then says "you know I would do anything for you." That might be okay from a father, but from your mom's boyfriend, that's a little creepy. Still, it might just be concern...at least if it wasn't for...

4. She answers him by saying "Don't talk to me like that," and pushing his hand away from her.** That's the final nail in the coffin, so to speak. If Effy took that in any kind of caring/concern way, her response makes absolutely no sense. It only makes sense if she takes it in the way that others have suggested--that he is interested in her sexually. Remember, too, that the film has shown her to be a girl who looks older than her years, and is attractive to older men. And the fact that she responds to it so quickly and decisively indicates that a scenario of this type has happened before. And finally...

5. She takes another look up and down, noticeably looking around his waist before saying "I'm telling mom." Another indication that this (or worse) has happened before. The idea that she's going to "tell" anything about his being out at the club doesn't make much sense. The mom already knows he was out drinking; he told her he was, pretty freely, actually. Effy heard that. She knows the mom knows, and there just isn't anything at all in the film that indicates that he had some other "secret" for her to tell. Besides, the fact that she doesn't specify what she's going to tell, and the fact that he doesn't immediately ask "tell her what?" indicates that they both know exactly what she means. Since she didn't see him with another woman that night, and the mother already knows he was at a bar, that "other secret" idea strains credulity.

Despite the fact that Henrick's motives are never explicitly stated, I'd argue that based on the evidence given in the film, the simplest explanation is that Henrick has the hots for his girlfriend's daughter. It's the one that best fits everything we see and hear without having to create extra "complications." Occam's Razor.

**Notice, by the way, that when she pushes his hand away, and backs away from him, the camera cuts back, and the position of his hand makes it look like he was reaching out to touch her cheek/neck with the back of his hand. It's hard to be certain, as it's only a quick shot, but if so, that would be a pretty decisive sign that his interest in her is far more than parental.

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2) It is a common practice in Europe for men to shave their armpits as it is considered to be more hygienic.

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Another interesting fact...that there is no legal drinking age in Denmark. It also explains 14 year old taking shots! Outside of the various taboo undertone, I enjoyed
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Another interesting fact...that there is no legal drinking age in Denmark. It also explains 14 year old taking shots! Outside of the various taboo undertone, I enjoyed
the film.


While this is true, it is illegal to buy alcohol if you're below 15, in shops, supermarkets etc. and illegal to buy alcohol in bars and clubs if you're below 18.
That's why she says she doesn't need id's to get into the club, because she knows someone there. People are carded outside of the club, so once she's in, she could buy whatever she wanted.

So when they were out touring Copenhagen, she'd just have him buying the booze for her, and she'd be able to drik it legally.

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While this is true, it is illegal to buy alcohol if you're below 15, in shops, supermarkets etc. and illegal to buy alcohol in bars and clubs if you're below 18.


Your data is outdated, it has been changed.
The updated law states, that its illegal for shops, supermarkets, gas stations etc. to sell alcohol to people under the age of 16.

The 18 years of age for bars, clubs, cafe's etc. remains the same.

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