I thought Kristen's performance in Clouds was superior to her excellent performance in Still Alice, and now the world is catching on. In her supporting role, she practically stole the movie.
http://www.mercurynews.com/movies/ci_27912320/review-clouds-displays-by-remarkable-work-from-kristen
Rest in peace, Roger Ebert. You were the best.
How was Chloe Moretz in it?
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I most recently saw Chloe Grace Moretz in If I Stay, and I personally felt her performance in 'Clouds' was superior. I thought she was rock-solid in her two diverse roles.
Rest in peace, Roger Ebert. You were the best.
To say the least! I was enormously impressed with Kristen Stewart's work in this, as she continues her progress from the Twilight series. She moved in and out of her two characters very easily. Juliette Binoche is now in her fifties and continues to impress me. She is not the ingénue from Unbearable Lightness of Being anymore, nor the mother from Bee Season either. She gets stronger and stronger.
shareI first remember seeing Juliette Binoche in The English Patient, for which she won the best supporting actress Oscar award. I most recently saw her in Chocolat where she absolutely stole the movie and garnered a best actress nomination. Her performance in 'Clouds' was outstanding, and I hope to see the performance of the actress who "beat-her-out" for the Cesar Award -- where Kristen won the best supporting actress Cesar award. I'm having trouble believing anyone outperformed Juliette in her role as Maria in 'Clouds.'
Rest in peace, Roger Ebert. You were the best.
I'm having trouble believing anyone outperformed Juliette in her role as Maria in 'Clouds.'I agree. I was shocked to find out that Juliette did not win the Cesar for this film. share
Kristin Stewart kind of has the benefit of low expectations. People EXPECT Juliette Binoche to be good, but she isn't always. Both were pretty good in this though.
Chloe Moretz's role isn't much of a stretch for a Hollywood actress, but--for what it's worth--she makes her character a little more interesting and intelligent than the young, dumb, full of -- actresses like that are in real life.
Actually, the theme of this movie made think about how Hollywood actresses all seem to peak in their early 20's these days. Forget Juliette Binoche, KRISTEN STEWART is an older, over-the-hill actress by Hollywood standards since she's already on the OTHER SIDE of overhyped mega-stardom. This movie is probably a good career move for both of the young actresses because Hollywood chewed up and spit out Stewart before she had any chance to mature or perfect her craft and I would bet they'll do the same thing to Moretz very soon.
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I would not say I am a fan of Kristen Stewart, certainly not her performances in the Twilight franchise. However, her work in the Runaways, the Cake Eaters and Speak is actually pretty strong. She definitely held her own in Clouds of Sils Maria, I was really impressed.
shareWhat are you talking about? Her character is just a regular person. She hangs around Juliet's character and talks with her. Kristen barely had to act anything emotional.
shareI too thought her role was very much Kristen Stewart playing Kristen Stewart. How can you tell? Well, when the wardrobe dept/director don't feel the need to cover up several of the actor's very real and very personal tattoos, you can correctly assume that the role is not a far departure for her.
shareThe big dark (and most obvious) tattoo on Kristen's right forearm was a temp, put on for the character Valentine. After filming of CoSM concluded, Kristen left it on for a number of months, decided she liked it, and only then did she have it made permanent. Kristen commented (in her often unfiltered way) about the tattoo.
“It’s a Picasso painting that I saw when I was 18 and in Madrid. It fck-ing floored me and it’s the first time I responded to a piece of art like that. It is just perfect for me. I love what it makes me think of. It’s like ‘keep going, and keep the fck-ing light on.’”
Rest in peace, Roger Ebert. You were the best.
Right. And the fact that she kept the tattoo kinda proves the point.... I like KS. I thought she had a mature perspective of Twilight in the latest Interview mag. I also think she's got a "John Wayne thing" going on and there's nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with playing the same kind of character over and over. Would that we all were lucky enough to find one persona that appealed to people in a way that could make us all wealthy. Nice job. BUT to say that gives you thespian cred is beyond ridiculous. And anyone giving her awards based on her Clouds performance borders on fanboy adoration. Val wasn't even the KIND of role (dramatic) that allows an audience to measure one's true performance skills. But, I still like her and I'm sure she has plenty of time to become exactly the kind of performer she wants to be. But any awards are definitely premature, Frenchies.
shareBut any awards are definitely premature, Frenchies.
As I said in another post: Jerry Lewis is still very popular there. Some things about France just can't be rationally explained.
Saying Kristen Stewart went "toe-to-toe" with JulieB in Clouds is like saying Danny Williams went "toe-to-toe" with Vitali Klitschko. Too funny. Yes, they were together in the same movie, but I would hardly call her performance going "toe-to-toe." That's not so much a knock on KS. Val wasn't a role that COULD compete with Maria's. Val didn't even have any backstory that we knew anything about. She came from nowhere, continued through the movie unchanged, then disappeared into nowhere. I liked Chewbacca in Star Wars, but I'd hardly say he "stole the show" or went "toe-to-toe" with anyone. Val = Chewbacca. Only a little cuter.
Yes, they were together in the same movie, but I would hardly call her performance going "toe-to-toe."
Lol At this point in the discussion I believe it appropriate to remind all of the "appeal to authority" logical fallacy...as if anyone could truly call any critic an "authority." And even if an authority existed, I wouldn't need one to tell me what I should think regarding Kstew's performance or choice of roles. She's a big girl and she'll do what she likes. I hope she wins all the awards available to her. But, I think a Cesar award for her performance in Clouds was somewhat political (as are all awards) and misguided. C'est fini.
shareI'm not attempting to regard any movie critic as an authority. What I'm trying to get across, and apparently not very well, is that for this particular picture, it's worth noting that a significant majority of the "professional" critics who've reviewed CoSM, have very high praise for Kristen's performance. Collectively, she given very high marks; whereas such universal critical high regard is not so dominant in all her other roles. She won the Cesar as a result of her performance in CoSM, not because of some Jerry Lewis-ish fluke.
Rest in peace, Roger Ebert. You were the best.
Kristin Stewart was great in this. Loved her in Into The Wild and Still Alice also.
shareProfessional critic is meaningless so you can stop saying it now, you delusional person. No, she didn't win the award based on her nonexistent performance she won it based on politics. You can go back to your hole now.
shareYou are so obsessed with your Kristen hate that you must dream about her every night. All anyone has to do is look at your profile to see how scary and mental you are.
shareI tend to disagree with this comment about K.S. just playing K.S.
The interplay between Binoche and Stewart demanded MUCH more than that and got it.
Passed on seeing this on cable about 5 times. Kind of felt "Meh" about it. But, after watching it I was moved to tears. K.S.'s final reaction to Binoche's over deeply felt differences with the Binoche character about their shared art was a sort of ending to the film. My impression is that the epilogue served to confirm that. And, spit in the eye of cartoonish corporate film making. The "indie" director that appears at the last gives hope that films "from the heart" could live on.
But, they would require the support of perhaps "Jaded" talent from the past to make them commercially viable.
Lots of subtlety here mixed with "in your face" TMZ bull. Wide ranging film. With insights into actor's devotion, and ego. As well as the heartless PR machinery.
K.S. character's departure say's much. A tribute to her honesty and her heart-breaking rejection of Binoche's decision to continue to play along with the "Star-making" machinery. The easy way out to a fearful career end.
Not a film for everyone. But, a fine effort for someone that wants to look behind the curtain. Plus. see two great actresses at their best.
I tend to disagree with this comment about K.S. just playing K.S.
The interplay between Binoche and Stewart demanded MUCH more than that and got it.
Passed on seeing this on cable about 5 times. Kind of felt "Meh" about it. But, after watching it I was moved to tears. K.S.'s final reaction to Binoche over deeply felt differences with the Binoche character about their shared art was a sort of emotional ending to the film. My impression is that the epilogue served to confirm that. And, spit in the eye of cartoon-ish corporate film making. The "indie" director that appears at the last gives hope that films "from the heart" could live on.
But, they would require the support of perhaps "Jaded" talent from the past to make them commercially viable.
Just a shout out here to "Big Name" actors that support smaller budget-smaller ego films! The Few, the Brave!
Lots of subtlety here mixed with "in your face" TMZ-papparazi bull. Wide ranging film. With insights into actor's devotion, and ego. As well as the heartless PR machinery of the "Biz".
It poses a major question: What is more important to the actor than the size of the check and the PR that comes with a big role. Or, the art itself?
K.S. character's departure say's much. A tribute to her honesty and her heart-breaking rejection of Binoche's decision to continue to play along with the "Star-making" machinery. The easy way out to a fearful career end.
Not a film for everyone. But, a fine effort for someone that wants to look behind the curtain. Plus. see two great actresses at their best.
I thought KS was barely watchable and I really can't understand what the fuss is about.
Juliette Binoche acted rings around both the two younger actresses, whose performances was as unsubstantial as the clouds of the title.
Kristen Stewart's perma-frown and throw-away diction are both annoying and instantly forgettable.
I guess since she's playing "serious", everybody HAS to say how good she is. She just isn't.
Kristen Stewart's perma-frown and throw-away diction are both annoying and instantly forgettable.
I guess since she's playing "serious", everybody HAS to say how good she is. She just isn't.
I thought KS was barely watchable and I really can't understand what the fuss is about.
She is terrible, you delusional person. Her delivery of lines is absolutely wooden, no facial expressions, no tonal changes in her voice, she is deadpan. The only character Kristen Stewart can play is Kristen Stewart.
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I'm not sure if you've seen any of these actresses, their films or merely the clips of them in these films:
Alicia Vikander (The Danish Girl, Ex Machina)
Kate Winslet (Steve Jobs)
Rachel Weisz, Jane Fonda (Youth)
Rachel McAdams (Love & Mercy, Spotlight)
Rooney Mara (Carol)
Joan Allen (Room)
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It's not necessarily about a "standout moment," but the construction of the actor's performance, which may involve accents and physical demeanor. But if we narrowed it down to a specific standout scene (of which Stewart has none), I'd point these out:
1. Kate Winslet's scene in which she challenges Steve Jobs's callousness in regard to his daughter (toward the end).
2. Jane Fonda's scene challenging Harvey Kietel (toward the end)
3. Rachel Weisz's scene expressing at her father's abandonment to him.
4. Any scene with Alicia Vikander talking to Domhnall Gleeson (Ex Machina)
5. Rachel McAdams's scene silently withstanding Paul Giamatti's berating (Love & Mercy)
6. Rooney Mara's love scene with Cate Blanchett.
7. Joan Allen's argument with Brie Larson.
There are your scenes... all of which are superior to Stewart (and in some cases, they didn't have to say much).
Lastly, saying Kristen Stewart's talent is an insult to the word talent, and anyone who can argue Stewart is superior to these actresses in anything has no credentials to put to me.
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Those critics organizations mean nothing to me.
Those critics organizations mean nothing to me. These are the same people who thought Patricia Arquette deserved Best Supporting Actress and Boyhood was a great film.
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LL -- Not true. I told you to compare Vikander in her two recent films, one of which won her the Oscar. I'm not going to play around with little 10-second clips for your amusement when all you have to do is look at both of her films. And you tell me that NO ONE can come up with a film scene superior to Stewart in SILS? In 100 years of Hollywood? You've got to be delusional.
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Thanks for that, a delusional person can always bring levity to my life.
shareMetusbatmanv -- you're never going to make LL Owens see the light about Stewart's lack of substance, even among other actors. She's obsessed with the actress; like many obsessives, she simply can't recognize another point of view. She'll concede nothing; Kristen Stewart is better than Streep, and that's it. You may as well give it up; it's an exercise in futility. See the topic "Does Anyone Else think Kristin Stewart was just playing herself...." on this same board and you see what I'm talking about. Debate is not possible with such a person (or wlp325), just winning. All they do is give lists of critics' associations to substantiate their claims of Stewart's talent (such lists mean nothing--it's the quality of the WORK which matters). Don't worry; time will tell whether Stewart's money and youth get her anywhere near the respect she's after. Meanwhile, youth is fleeting daily and many new people (Vikander, or Ruth Negga, who has a strong theatre resume) are coming in. And US films offer very few women's parts, at least up to now. Competition is fierce. Paris gains daily as the new epicenter of global cinema.
Why do Stewart and her generation of female acting geniuses never appear in any notable theatrical venture? Blanchett is on Broadway now, and regularly tests herself that way. Binoche and Huppert do theatre; Cotillard has toured in ST. JOAN AT THE STAKE. Streep did MOTHER COURAGE some time back. Takes guts and talent and technique Stewart doesn't have; knowing the criticism, why isn't she pursuing this for some experience and expansion of her creds? Her fans should challenge her to do so, rather than challenging all of us on these boards.