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Is anyone else a little peeved with Danielle Cormack?


I know this posting is pure speculation until it is confirmed next year, whether Bea Smith is dead or alive. Working on the assumption that Bea is dead and it was Danielle's decision to exit Wentworth, as a fan of the show, are you a little annoyed if this turns out to be the case?

I completely understand Danielle is under no moral or legal obligation to the show or fans, to stay on playing a character she is bored with or wanting to pursue other acting opportunities. She's red hot at the moment (no pun intended) She probably has television and movie offers coming left, right and centre. I wouldn't be surprised in the least. With all of that being written, if the above scenario is true, that it was her decision to bailout, I feel it's a bit of a cop out to leave as the show's integral character.

If I'm totally wrong and it was the creative process to have Bea leave at the end of Series 4 with Danielle's agreement and she didn't fight it. I'd take it all back and would accept the outcome more. If Wentworth's Creative Team can't write for Bea anymore, so rather than tarnish the character they have her leave 'gracefully' (graceful as getting bludgeon with a screwdriver can be) it is not a perfect situation but understandable. If however it was a unilateral decision on Danielle's behalf and not being contractually obliged, to remain in the role permanently, I know she is well within her rights to do so. Writing honestly though, it would be disappointing to hear it was Danielle's choice to quit the programme. Of course Wentworth can retool the cast with main characters like Prisoner Cell Block H did in the past.

There is no getting away from the fact the entire show has been built around Bea Smith. The reason I would find it disappointing if Danielle has called it quits, is because the investment it has taken over four years to make a character people care about, is undone if they are written out prematurely. Maybe this decision is what contributed to Series 4 being a poor relation to the previous three series. The Creative Team may have had to hurriedly write an artificial exit, which in my opinion was lacklustre.

Again taking into account, Danielle doesn't owe the fans or Wentworth's creators loyalty, especially if actors only sign an annual contract. With all that stated, Danielle must of known before taking on the character of Bea Smith, if the programme took off as it has done, she would be playing her for a long period of time. Ideally the creators should have locked all main characters into long term contracts. If Bea is deceased and only the characters that were left at the end of Series 4, then Series 5 could be Wentworth's last. Who is left to carry the show and fill Bea's void? Tedious Kaz? Allie cat? Juice? Franky was only in Series 4, for 5 episodes, it wasn't enough. Will this happen again?

Actors and actresses deserve autonomy over their own careers but deciding to play a character, that potentially could be a ten year plus job, then really the actor or actress should have the imperative to stay in it for the long haul or shouldn't take the role on in the beginning.

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Interviews made it evident they kicked her out. Anyway I'm over it just need season 5, I wanna see what they come up with sans Bea and if it works or not.

So go on. Kiss me. Kill me. Do something.

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That's a shame but they must of had good reasons, to fire the most crucial character of the programme. Danielle was great as Bea, although I bet they wished they had chosen a different actress. It might also be a warning sign, being sent out to the rest of the cast, that no one is bigger than the show.

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Well yeah they had one reason: she was still too smart for the Ferguson show so they had to eliminate her and leave the Freak to rule over the band of idiots and naive morons left in Wentworth.

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From what I've read and interviews I've seen, it doesn't seem like it was Danielle's decision to leave at all, but that of WW's creative team. Several of the cast members have commented that the outcome of the finale was kept very under wraps and that they were very shocked when it played out and Danielle didn't return to the set for season 5. I can't imagine why the show would have its audience invest so heavily in a main character and then kill her off. Seems like a tragically stupid move to me. I would kill to glimpse behind the scenes to know what prompted the decision, but I doubt we'll ever get the real story.

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Probably in 25 years the cast and crew can talk candidly about Danielle's exit, much like they can do now with Prisoner Cell Block H. If Danielle did get an inflated ego because she thought she was paramount to the programme, this must of been a rude awakening for her. In someways it is a shame this didn't happen sooner, they could of had the chance of recasting the role of Bea Smith.

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Not sure if she was the problem but I suspect something went wrong behind the scenes, it's just weird of all characters they'd kill Bea and in such a crappy way, at least she deserved a better exit.
They also have this weird thing of writing out characters with no explanation.
So go on. Kiss me. Kill me. Do something.

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I know without knowing Danielle Cormack personally, it's difficult to differentiate between the actress and the character. Also Wentworth is the only programme I've watched her in, but since seeing her as Bea Smith, I've thought she's the salt of the earth sort of person. If behind the scenes, she is egotistical and behaves like a 'Prima Donna' then she's a better actress than I first thought, because none of that comes across on the screen at all.

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lol calm your pits, moron. Where do you get that she "had an inflated ego because she thought she was paramount to the programme"?

She was kicked out to make more room for Rabe's mammoth of a snoozefest. They obviously couldn't have too much good acting around Rabe's chewing the scenery.

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As sad as I was (I mean upset, then angered), after I got over the initial shock, I came to the realization that Bea's story arc was over. I even said it before she died that things were getting boring on Bea's side. We've seen all that was left for Bea to do. And anyone who had been though what she had would be tired too.

Even if Bea and Allie got their happy ending, bea would no longer be top dog, and the focus would no longer have been on her.

So killing her off in a blazing glory and having Joan rot for it was victorious.

It took balls.

If they find the right character we could get another amazing story circled around them.

I'm interested to see what they do with Sonia. She's been little miss innocent trying to hide the crazy, but if she does get convicted, the mask will come off and we will get to see the true colors of the murderous sociopath that she is.

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I came to the realization that Bea's story arc was over. I even said it before she died that things were getting boring on Bea's side.


Exactly.

What was there left for her to do? Become top dog again? Fight with Joan or Sonia or against the prison drugs? Live happily ever after? Escape Wentworth? It was made pretty clear that she was never going to get out of prison alive. I love Bea & Danielle McCormack, but it makes sense especially if they truly want the show to become an ensemble show like the original Wentworth became.

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Bea's story arc was over because the writers wrote it that way. If from the beginning of series 4 the writers hadn't drove her character down a dead end, then there would still be interesting areas to explore and discover about Bea. I can't believe the transformation between the two series, the end of series 3 and the start of series 4, the creative team effectively hobbled Bea's character from the commencement of series 4. They made her a meek and feeble shell of her former self, limping from crisis to crisis. Considering the original Bea lasted for 400 episodes, Wentworth's Bea looks pale and weak in comparison.

Thinking back to other characters that have had short shrift with the programme, it seems Wentworth has a habit of bailing out on a character's story before it should have legitimately concluded. Examples of this happening in my opinion are; Erica Davidson, Jodie Spiteri, Sky Pierson and Matthew Fletcher to name a few. Bea's exit, if that is what it was, is short term gratification to have a finale that will keep people talking about the show until series 5. After that, it's anyone's guess if it will have the desired payoff that was expected by the creative team. The fact that you and a lot of people on the message board are not left wanting more of Bea beacause mostly everyone is a bit fed up with her by now, shows what a dreadful job the writing staff have done crafting Bea's character and story over the last four years.

I don't know if you're familiar with the prison drama 'Bad Girls'? If you are, Yvonne Atkins in a lot of people's eyes was the pinnacle of the show, like Bea Smith was to 'Wentworth'. Yvonne's murder was that much more shocking and upsetting because the audience was not bored of her and weren't ready to wave goodbye to her yet. Evidently, as sad her death was, it lent major gravitas to the plots and storylines that followed it. If I had the decision, I'd of definitely wrestled with giving Yvonne a dramatic ending or happy ending. In the end of course, being a drama, the right choice was made. I'm not so sure the same can be said about Bea's exit.

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Well said. It was victorious and a great exit for her with the "I win".

"What would you like to see on your honeymoon, Mrs. Cord?"
"Lots of lovely ceilings."

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It's like they made her gay JUST so they could happily dive head first in the bury your gays trope. Nice.

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I actually heard Dan didn't know Bea's fate till the day they shot Bea's death. Dan was super pumped that the show got renewed &I think the writers wanted to go for the shock value. I still don't understand why some people say Beas storyline was over. It was just getting started. They ended it way too quickly. Do y'all really wanna watch another damn season of Ferguson doing the same damn thing? I don't think there's enough interesting characters without Bea.


"What happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object?"

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I still don't understand why some people say Beas storyline was over. It was just getting started.


IDK. What was left for her to do?

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What do you mean? The entire show centered around her. She's the main character & a lifer. She just found love. How can you say that there's not more for her to do. Just like the other characters that are less interesting that didn't get killed off. There's more story there. Ferguson is the one who's story should've been over.



"What happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object?"

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Can you put "spoiler" in your next OP, dum-dum?

"What would you like to see on your honeymoon, Mrs. Cord?"
"Lots of lovely ceilings."

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It aired months and months ago. How long is something a spoiler?

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You're kidding, right? You've never heard of someone discovering a new show on Netflix and binge watching it?

Or just catching up on a movie cuz it's now on cable?

Why would ANYONE think all posters are on the same page?

"What would you like to see on your honeymoon, Mrs. Cord?"
"Lots of lovely ceilings."

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Don't go on a forum until you're caught up. That's all I can say.

I mean, how long are we supposed to post stuff in spoiler tags? Should the Dallas forum post everything with spoiler warnings since people might discover it on DVDs?

IT WAS PAM'S DREAM!!!

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Jesus. You are an *beep* Please f$ck off.

What do you got on? Loafers? You don't slaughter animals in loafers!

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Lolmaoo

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There is no getting away from the fact the entire show has been built around Bea Smith.

The show may have had her be the lead character, but it's not the "Bea Smith Show" It's called WENTWORTH. It's about the prison so Bea can certainly be replaced and the show can carry on as normal with some one else as good as her like the original show did when Bea left after episode 400. Bea's focus on that show was even greater than it is here, especially when she was around a lot longer and the crew moved on and got into some new territory. That's what we have to look forward to now. I just hate this incarnation of Bea also had to die and Bea will never learn the truth about Allie being alright. I hate it when characters die believing one thing and it turns out not to be true. Hopefully there's an afterlife and Bea knows the truth about Allie.

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The problem is they're now left with a boring gallery of uninspired supporting characters that were never developed past the point of comedy relief or fierce sidekicks. And Fergy the Psycho, who is really as interesting as a Saturday at the laundromat so... good luck to them.

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Season 5 is not as good as the other seasons. Its like a soap opera now, stories rushed. No build up.. Not thrilled about how they filmed it this season at all. But I will still watch.

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