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not just bad: disturbingly bad


What a bizarre movie. I did find myself laughing at times, but felt guilty for doing so, because the principals in the movie are so psychotic. We're supposed to root for them, but how can you root for people who think nothing of murder and destruction as the solution to everything? The movie creates this bizarre universe in which we're expected to sympathize with the family. They love each other, after all, so that should excuse everything, apparently. The acting is marvelous, but the idea is very ill-conceived.

Oh, yes, in this bizarre universe, everyone in Normandy speaks excellent English.

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Wait for netflicks.

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Perhaps if the violence was more "cartoony" instead of realistic it would have worked better. Beating up the bad guys seemed more sadistic than funny or something to cheer about. If anything, the family appeared to be bullies.

I found it odd that the teachers taught in English in the school.

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"I found it odd that the teachers taught in English in the school."

They teach English in almost every country. It makes you more employable. Computers are basically English-based. The world vernacular is basically English. I'm not saying this bc I think that is the way it should be. I am Asian-American myself. But yea, all over Asia, too, everyone learns English. All my cousins in Hong Kong can speak and read English.

When I went to visit Berlin, the young people understood and spoke English. My friend from Amsterdam speaks and reads it, too, and he says he prefers to watch Hollywood movies and our TV shows in English, not dubs. Hong Kong is the same way, people buy tickets to the movies in English.

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I know they have English language classes throughout the world, but I meant it wouldn't be normal to teach other subjects like Math or History in English in France. And even outside of the schools, the French automatically spoke only English to the family and each other. How would they even know the family wasn't French?

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1. Its not just that they spoke English mostly all the time in France, if you read what the OP wrote, its that they spoke almost perfect English. The red headed douche that went after Belle and got her to get into the car, had an accent when he kept calling her "Miss America" but other than that, most of the other people, save for the tutor, spoke basically good American English which is not the case in France in real life.

2. The part where Belle lost her virginity was unnecessary. Sure the tutor turned out to be a jerk who didn't care for her the way she thought he did, but she should have seen this coming. He showed no previous interest in her and she was just a dumb naïve 17 year old. She didn't have to lose her virginity though. First, off in this generation I'm surprised this movie had a character that was still a virgin especially one with that mouth when she swore @ the jerks in the park for trying to ______ her. Second, she talked of waiting for the perfect guy in the perfect situation on her terms and then just gives it away just like that against some door in a study room like a cheap slut? Disappointing but telling of this moral less generation. Simply making out with him would have proven the same point.

3. Didn't the 22 year old tutor commit statutory rape on the 17 year old Belle in the study room that we are just supposed to forget about apparently?

4. Are we to assume just because this is a family of a former mob corner boss, they all know how to kick ass? Who taught Warren how to shoot those guns all "Kick-Ass" ish through the gate @ the end of the movie with accuracy against the mobsters? Who taught him how to survey all they new students and find their weaknesses/how they could help him---Viagra, trading cards, etc. in real life as a new student they would have not only shunned him but they would not have spoke English well enough nor trusted a foreigner enough to do those kind of deals with him to get protection that he was after. They'd have all said 'stupid Yank' etc.

5. Maddie would have got blamed/caught for the grocery store incident since she was the last person seen going in or coming out of it. I'm sure they had cameras but we are just supposed to overlook that fact because 'its a moveie'?

6. Plot hole, Warren created fake I.D's and was bound for Paris because of something he did @ the school that made it so 'he couldn't go back' but we not only never find out what that was, but he's seen reunited with Belle somehow for the finale @ the house when it was known the family could not have cell phones so how did she contact him to return to the house?

5. Where did Belle get the cell phone that she used to call her love interest from the roof-top ledge only to abandon those plans when she somehow saw the gangsters getting out of their cars and organizing their attack below her? How was she able to see them? Eagle-eye?

7. Santa Ana, CA's Pfeiffer's all-too-obvious fake/forced NY accent made it harder to take her character seriously.

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I agree with most of your points except for 6 & 5 (but should be 7)

Warren was waiting for the train when the very same mobsters who were at his house in the states at a family BBQ, disembarked. It was proven in an earlier part of the movie that he recollected his time there, even though he was young, because he submitted that anecdote to the school paper. He immediately ran for the phone to call his family and tell them the mobsters were on the way. no one picked up. He went back. Not a plot hole.

Belle took the phone from the pink hair banded classmate. After asking nicely, the girl said 'you don't share phones', and then Belle hit her with it and took it.




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good catch on the cell phone. I had not thought of that, but again, in real life, anyone who gets their phone stolen from them would have called the provider immediately and had in turned off/canceled.

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good catch on the cell phone. I had not thought of that, but again, in real life, anyone who gets their phone stolen from them would have called the provider immediately and had in turned off/canceled.

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The Blakes were psychotic bullies who learned nothing and suffered nothing for their crimes against humanity. I can't root for people like that and the movie should not ask us as an audience to either. The movie actually made me upset. The performances were fine but what was the moral? Behave like monsters and you'll never have to suffer the consequences? Just the message the world needs now.

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I don't even know why people watch this drek. Black comedies or not, there's unjustifiable violence there -- just for the sake of violence. There's no redeeming quality to this movie These actors should be ashamed of themselves for playing in this movie. Now I think much less of them.

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I watched it for Michelle Pfeiffer really and she was good and almost close to likable but again, the blowing up the store because they were making fun of her/Americans is nuts and not endearing. The violence didn't bother me as I thought it wasn't gratuitous but the motivation (story-wise) for the violence is what makes this movie bad in my opinion.

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The film was cheesy, over-dramatic, unfunny, and boring. I didn't laugh once in the film, nor was I ever enjoying the film. Most of the acting was bad, the action was god awful (just to think, this guy directed Leon, which had one of the best action sequences ever, then he made this?)
I actually feel bad for Besson, he directed two great action films, and one of the best post 90 scifi films. Now he made The Family and Arthur and the Invisibles? Also, this film has so many stereotypes it's disgusting.
I just hope that Lucy is a better film. I love the fact that Min-sik Choi is in this film. God he was great in I Saw the Devil, and Oldboy.

See you space cowboy...

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The film was cheesy, over-dramatic, unfunny, and boring. I didn't laugh once in the film, nor was I ever enjoying the film. Most of the acting was bad
You probably should never have seen this film if you hated it that passionately. Did you not see the trailer?? Robert DeNiro is not capable of being a bad actor. Michele's accent was a little annoying but other than that I think all the acting was fine.

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I saw it with friends, so it's not like I'm going to walk out. I know one of them liked it, but I couldn't stand it. DeNiro did a fine job, and so did Pfeiffer, but it was the kids that were the worst part of the film. The scene were the girl was about to kill herself was easily one of the worst scenes in film history.

See you space cowboy...

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you know i very rarely leave any kind of criticism on here, but i do love to read the comments and critique, just to give me an insight as to how other people think about films in general,

personally i think most of it is BS, because i always watch a film and decide whether I like it or not, and in general i never pay to see any of them, that's why i love torrents.

so what i would love to see in my lifetime is a nation of people, just learning to accept, that a film is a film, made to be watched and giving IMDB the cold shoulder and react to it by chatting amongst the friends or folks you went to see it with, and leaving this board completely blank.

it'll never happen i know, cos if it did, i would not be getting my weekly insight.

peace love and i told you i was ill !

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Thats a good troll

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I had a completely different experience then you. I loved it. I think the Dad was bad but everyone else did have some sort of reason to be angry. Granted they overreacted but it is a movie after-all.

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How you make a film this bad featuring Robert DeNiro and Michelle Pfeiffer is beyond belief.

The Manzoni family is relocated to Normandy, France under the witness protection program because DeNiro turned mafia rat to save his hide. What results is spending two hours with a despicable douchebag and his wife as well as his snotty children. At least the kids were only petty criminals. DeNiro plays a murdering unrepentant scumbag that the film apparently wants you to root for. Why would anyone want this guy to survive and prosper? Plus, the needless carnage at the end of the movie is unsettling and farther makes the entire cinema experience as unpleasant as it gets.

Disturbingly bad indeed.

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