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Him Getting Raped Would Have Been A More Bold Choice


I think Phillipe should have gone for it. That really would have gotten people talking about this. I liked the movie as it was, but why stop short? My guess is that they thought it was excessive, but if you are going to do a movie like this and you are the writer and director, go the full monty. Or maybe the full Deliverance! People still talk about that reference today and that was 43 years ago.

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What happened in that movie 43 years ago, what movie was that, The Full Monty? I thought that was a movie based on a play and supposed to be a comedy about muscians or something?? Anyways, I'm glad he didn't get raped, I was pulling for Reagan till the final moment to keep speaking to Junior bringing up all his valid points about why he could be better and why he didn't have to be manipulated into debauchery because Junky Junior deep down had redeemable qualities. He fed Reagan, he medicated him, helped him ease himself, gave him sun, saved him from a gator he also did compliment him.

Junior did have an isolated life since after highschool ( he said him and his hisghschool friends liked one of Reagan's films that they repeatedly watched) it seemed (yelling in the woods, running through the woods) and his early years as an infant on from his uncle's prospective Junior was born addicted to drugs since his mother was a drug addict while pregnant which their community and people who stereotype could blame that Junior was nothing or never going to amount to nothing because of so many setbacks.

I think that day if Reagan would have kept talking to Junior there would have been a better / different outcome.

Junior was on a slippery slope you talk a little portion of good to him it wasn't enough he would still go back and do wrong or what he always does. He just needed More enlightening. But that gator touch was nice though 🆗

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The film the OP is referencing is Deliverance, just like it says in his/her post.


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I see the flub. I haven't seen Full Monty or Deliverance actually. Although the rest of my reply is relevant to the OP.

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Yep, it is.

I actually find the OP's idea completely unnecessary, and in a way, a little disturbing. Having him raped for the sake of a "more bold choice" is a little out there, in my opinion.

This wasn't a torture porn film, so what's the point of arbitrarily shoving more in, especially in the form of rape? Eh, his/her idea is a bit odd to me. I actually think that had they done that, it may have given a different vibe to the film.

Adding to a character or explaining something a little better to improve a film is one thing, but adding more violence for the sake of more violence is a different story.

Again, just my opinion.

I've actually seen people post that the death camp scenes in Schindler's List should have been more violent and scary. Ugh!



If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure. - George W. Bush

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Yeah and it would probably be more popular, since movies with it usually are for some reason. I just watched it for the first time today.

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Sorry, but not even an ass rape couldn't save this piece of celluloid vomit. This just might be the worst movie I have ever seen. I was embarrassed for Phillippe. It's sad to see what happens to celebs when they drop off the A-list. My head is still spinning from watching this ugly train wreck; poor acting, putrid direction/cinematography, awful, tired script. R. Phillippe should run off to an island with Demi Moore...and disappear.

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No way should his character have been raped. One idea behind the film is that Ryan's character is playing his captors like a violin. He lets the guy get his pants down, to look at his ass, to think he's going to get it and then bang, he kills the guy!

The ending reinforces all of this. Ryan's character could've escaped before killing the other captor, but he knew that if the guy lived, he would tell the world that Ryan's character slept with his wife. If that happened, Ryan's career would still be over with.

So, he waited, killed the captor, staged the whole escape by boat scenario (he did have a key to the car after all) and this all resulted in his comeback in Hollywood. He played his captors, he played Hollywood, he played society, etc. etc.

Very clever work on Ryan's part.

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Yes, the redneck rapist in 'Deliverance' was a full-blown psycho who enjoyed the rape. Junior was more hesitant, he was physically attracted to Pierce, but he wasn't a complete psycho. He felt the need to drug his victim before the sex. But actually, what he would have done, would still have been rape. And that probably somewhat justified Pierce's killing him, even though it was kind of harsh, in order to avoid being raped.

I don't see how Pierce could have staged the entire thing, though, just to conceal the fact that he'd slept with the other redneck's (Mike's) wife, just to protect his career. The wife was still around, and police would have connected them. Also, surely the police would have looked into the motive for the kidnapping, and Pierce's sleeping with Mike's wife would have eventually become public knowledge. The public being what it is, though, they probably figured that Pierce's being kidnapped and worked over made up for his sleeping around, and his career turned out better than ever. "There's no such thing as bad publicity", although Charlie Sheen & Mel Gibson might not agree with that.

Honestly, though, I can't figure out how the dancing alligator scene at the conclusion figured into it. When Pierce clicked on the e-mail at the end, and brought up that scene, it must have been an e-mail from Junior. It did make it look as though the entire thing was all just staged, from beginning to end, for the benefit of Pierce's career. But the police involvement would render that impossible. Maybe the whole thing was just a joke, and we were all being played ! Still, a pretty decent movie.

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