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So we are totally supposed to forget?


A third of the way through the book, Libby Day is 31, 4' 10", D cup boobs, red haired, and missing toes and part of a finger. Yeah when I think of it, Charlize Theron would of been my first choice.

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They knew her name would sell tickets.

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This movie was only distributed to a handful of theaters and I highly doubt this made a lot of ticket sales. Since this movie didn't even get a wide release they should have saved the money they spent getting a marquee name actress and hired someone who actually resembles Libby Day, like Christina Ricci.

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Charlize Theron's casting had more to do with securing investors than ticket sales.

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Investors, you're right.

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Casting Call: Red head with missing fingers and toes

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Was it explained why Libby had missing toes and part of a finger and what was the significance of that in the story?

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From frostbite when she was hiding in the ice cold pond when the murders took place.

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Morgan freeman's character in Shawshank was supposed to be Irish. Hence the name red. Not only did they cast a Black guy, but they even kept the name Red. It made no difference just like it does here. Her height and weight has nothing to do with anything. lol Do you really think they need to stay to character from the person of the book if it doesnt matter or have anything to do with the story?



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Depends on which story your talking about, in the book she lost her digits in the snow escaping from the real murderer and also at the end of the book was only able to escape said murderers house because of her small stature. Also her character was a lot more fragile in the book, something the amazon Theron has a harder time displaying.

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And does any of that have any effect on the story? Did her losing fingers matter? Does her being small and able to escape thru a small window matter as opposed to just being normal sized and escaping thru a normal sized window? Does how she escape even matter. Its not like they tried to make us believe normal size charlize escaped thru an abnormally small window.



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Actually, her losing fingers did matter. It's brought up several times in the book and it's brought up with significance, detailing one of the many hardships Libby Day had to go through as a result of the massacre of her family and her escape from the killers.

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You're right. Libby's amputations mattered.

Libby also limped due to her missing toes. She was perpetually unbalanced by the murders;mentally and physically.
The injury was changed from frostbite to a puncture wound-and her gait as an adult was completely normal. I'd even say that CH walked proudly.

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What really gets me is the fact that this is fictional and people are insisting on an actress w/o toes...as if Libby would ever take her shoes off to show her lack of digits. I mean, people are too concerned about what the fictional book says that is missing in this fictional movie. Yes, she was cast for her name. One poster even suggests it should have been someone like Christina Ricci! Now, let's go back and look at "Monster" and how perfectly Charlize played Wuornos (sp?). Charlize has no problem playing ugly people...ugly inside and out, and she does it beautifully.
FICTION, people, FICTION!
HOK, I am responding directly to you, because you seem to be the only person who gets it.



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@HOKfilms: totally agree with your points.
And I really enjoyed this movie.
Just my opinion but I rate it 8/10.

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Her stature was important, as not only does it play into the finale of the book, but it represents how she's been "stunted" emotionally and beaten down by life (i.e. never grew up). Charlize being the visual opposite of that is kind of a big deal, even if it does not bother most viewers.

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Her stature only plays a part in the finale of the book, not the movie. The movie does not try to have you believe that someone so big escaped thru a place only someone really small could have. It weighs no relevance to her size as its pretty unimportant unless your character needs to be small. Other than your physical symbolism that suffering stunts your growth.

This does not bother most viewers because the movie doesnt try make you believe charlize is playing somebody short.






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I had not read the book. Know nothing about the story. Was surprised to read the credits at the end that it was from the author of Gone Girl.

The entire movie I kept saying to myself... Charize Theron is miscast.

This character needs to be smaller in stature... someone who is vulnerable and painfully childlike even though she is an adult. And someone younger in age.

Someone above mentioned Christina Ricci. I definitely see that. But certainly someone who projects fragility on screen. Rooney Mara also comes to mind.

It's clear that the essence of the story in the dialogue, especially at the beginning, carried over the author's original intention. It's obviously part of the story.

I also read the novella from which the movie Shawshank Redemption by Stephen King was based. And the casting of Morgan Freeman instead of an Irish actor, did not change the intention of the original story. Red is a supporting character. The story is not about him. That's the reason they could get away with making those changes.

This story is about the character Libby and how it affected her life. I think the author was going for how the tragedy "stunted" her growth in every way. That is an essential aspect of the story being told and the film should have gone with that and chosen an actress that would reflect that as nearly as possible among the large pool of actresses available.

To me, Hollywood, to their detriment, keeps the focus on investors as opposed to making a better film. They use star power as an excuse to cast the same actors over and over.

The film grossed 3.5 million dollars. I looked around for the budget and can't find it online. But you can make a safe bet that it cost more than $3.5 million. So it was a financial dog in terms of profit. So Charlize Theron being in the movie made no difference at all.

But Hollywood insists on passing off the same lies. Like they only make movies that will sell in the Asian market. I didn't even find any numbers for that market with this film.

Maybe had they cast it appropriately, it might have made money. Corey Stall was also wrong. (And I like him.) Stoll is too intelligent looking to have stayed in jail for the reasons given.

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Oh, who cares? Bottom line, Theron was able to portray the main character as emotionally stunted and emotionally damaged as a result of what happened to her family---she may think she's moved on, but it's obvious as the film goes on that she really hasn't been able to do that. That came across very well.

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I'd have a hard time believing that a woman with D cups could escape through a small window because of her "small stature," regardless of how short she was.

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I'd have a hard time believing that a woman with D cups could escape through a small window because of her "small stature," regardless of how short she was.


Not all D-cups are like shoving watermelons under your shirt.

It depends a lot on band size. Every band size you go up, you gain half a cup, while staying the same letter. If book-Libby was generally small all over, she could have something like a 34 band. A 34D and a 38C are what you call "sister sizes", meaning they are very similar in size.

Would you believe a short, slim woman with C-cups could fit through a small window? How small do they need to be exactly for you to believe it?

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I only read the book, didn't see the movie. But in the book, the night of the murders, Libby was 7 years old, no cup size at all yet.

I too thought Christina Ricci was perfect for the adult Libby.

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Let me clear that up for ya, lol.

In the movie, during part of the finale climax, Libby has to escape from Diondra's house through a small basement window. I can see where a "D" cup might hinder that as the window only looked to be 1'H x 1'6"W.

Hope that helps explain the questioning of Charlize playing the part of Libby.

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Her mom had massive boobs. That much... is with out question.

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I didn't mind Charlize Theron being casted that much. Her and young Libby had similar eyes so I sort of bought it. One thing that bugged me was that Libby was essentially a depressed, broke, doesn't care about anything person and they didn't alter Charlize Theron's appearance in anyway to portray that besides put a ball cap on her. Her hair and makeup always looked expensive and well done. This is what I imagine Charlize Theron looking like when she goes grocery shopping.

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Good post, maddiemoon31.

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It's "cast",dammit!!!! Cast!!!!

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It's always interesting when someone points out differences in the source material and the movie made from it. I wonder how close the movie is suppposed to be to the book and I also wonder how many people who read the book also saw the movie. As someone who dind't read the book, it doesn't really matter to me what differences there are in the book and the movie, unless there's additional information in the book that explains something that wasn't in the movie and leaves me questioning what that was about.

I also wonder what people think of a piece of work when it starts out as a movie or show and ends up in a book or comic book or some other form. Do people who read a book after a movie say, "That wasn't in the movie!" Some things work really well when they transition from one form to another and others don't do as well.

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I'm with you. I read the book and I can't for the life of me understand why it matters that Libby looked different.

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I have read the book and I rememberLibbie Day managed to escape thru small window, because she was small, but Diondora and her son could't follow so Libbie got a head start.

Also maddiemoon31 said Charlize Theron looked too fresh and strong willed to be a suffered girl. Of course her previous and subsequent movies have typecasted her as a strong and bad ass bitch (Monster, Aeon Flux, Prometheus, Mad Max). Also I compared her to Corey Stroll, who was playing tough brother, yet he has been a little wuss in House of Cards and The Strain. So Charlize looks too tough in this role.

Movies and books shouldn't be compared, because they are different media. You always need to change things when you make a movie from a book. Sometimes it is good adaptation and sometimes it isn't. Kubrick's Shining is great, even though King didn't like it and TV- miniseries was bad even though King was part of making it. Some movies are even better than book they've made of like Carl Sagan's Contact.

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Is there any movie she is in where she doesn't act like a rough man? I have only seen her in this and Monster, I think.

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