Nerd vs Geek


This show is trying to cash in on the rise of the geek, people who are easily manipulated into buying cheap plastic because it looks like something a media conglomerate once put on a screen. When I think of a nerd, I'm not envisioning an adult who dresses like a child and fills their house with toys and non-functioning marketing trinkets.

A scientist is a nerd obviously. A Jeopardy champ is a nerd as well because of the books smarts style of study and ability to recall the information.

Using technology does not make a you a nerd in 2015. A video gamer is not a nerd any more than the average American with an iPhone. A cosplay queen is not a nerd any more than a fashion blogger is a nerd. A LARPer is not a nerd. A brony is not a nerd. A "comic book nerd" is not a nerd.

The truth is if being a nerd were the same thing as being a geek, there would have already been a Revenge of the Nerds reboot.

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Yeah, this board had the same discussion back in season 1 too.

Nerds are smart, typically in math and/or science. They are also usually socially awkward.

Geeks are people that are really into one thing. Doesn't matter what that thing is, all that is important is that they are really into it or that their interest in it makes them appear "weird" compared to the general population.

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Agreed. Except Geek's one thing is generally not something academic. It is generally related to pop culture of sorts (comics, pokemon, star trek etc...). I do think that there can be some cross over though between Nerd and Geeks, as well as people that may not be considered either or but are good academically.

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There almost was a "Revenge of the Nerds" reboot. I'm glad that effort failed.

--Will.

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I think the words have evolved over the years, and people who were once included are no longer under the umbrella. Yet they cling to those labels because it became their identity growing up.

The terms used to be interchangeable and cast a much wider net. Mainly because nerds are often geeks and geeks are often nerds. Besides that, because they suffered at the hands of the same oppressors there was a certain solidarity that made them proud to claim both labels. That solidarity has largely disappeared now that the enemy that united them has become almost extinct. Those who could once claim to be nerds now try and distance themselves from those who could once claim to be geeks at every opportunity because the elitism that comes with being intelligent, educated, and passionate about their field means they want to avoid sharing labels with fans of the Marvel movies and JRPGs.

The interests that would have set some people on the fringes of society twenty years ago - hobbies and pursuits that are looked down on as having some kind of social stigma - are now entirely mainstream. Society as a whole has become more tolerant, too.

I'd argue that the true geeks/nerds now - they existed then, too, but were mixed in with those who fell under the old definition - are those whose social skills are seriously and permanently damaged independently of their hobbies or because of them. They may have autism, they may have had a *beep* childhood away from other kids, they may have been bullied for some physical deformity...Often, those with developmental disorders end up chasing those same hobbies or attaining those same book smarts that would have identified traditional nerds, but they're often pushed towards above average engagement with escapist pursuits because they're excluded from normal society.

So modern geeks/nerds aren't geeks/nerds because they heavily throw themselves into comic books, go to science camp, play videogames or study hard. These things are all currently acceptable and would maybe even make you popular. No, the real nerds/geeks do those things as a result of having an actual social development issues or develop social development issues as a result.

This show is antiquated in how it defines geeks/nerds. A lot of the contestants don't suffer a social stigma because of their interests and intelligence. They may have done when they were growing up, but their social skills definitely haven't been permanently damaged by the ordeal and they have no clear behavioral disorders. Any attempt on their part to appear marginalized come across as slightly embarrassing and definitely offensive to those who are still marginalized.

Like Colby. Or Zack. People who genuinely struggle to integrate into a group and obviously have behavioral oddities.

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"I'm not a nerd. Nerds are smart."
-Milhouse Vanhouten

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