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Hilary Swank is not "plain"


While by no means a ravishing beauty, she's fairly good looking and has a hot body, as well. Reminds me of "The Tall T" when Randolph Scott and Richard Boone kept referring to the middle-aged, and still attractive, Maureen O'Sullivan as "plain."

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yeah. i agree. Swank would have been considered a great catch in the midwest in that era.

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robbystoner
yeah. i agree. Swank would have been considered a great catch in the midwest in that era.


I disagree. If the Mary Bee character would have been considered a good catch in her community, she would have been married.

The area where Mary lived was pretty isolated with few people but the eligible bachelor neighbor still chose to travel hundreds of miles to find a bride rather than marry her. Her neighbors considered her very unusual, living on the margins of the community.

By today's standards, Mary Bee was definitely a prize. She'd probably have at least one worthless husband/boyfriend sponging off of her hard work. Unless she was lucky enough to hook up with another go getter, hard worker.




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You could tell Mary Bee was making a martyr of herself in this film, and was rather envious of those crazed women (they'd husbands, two had borne children, all had certainly "felt the heat of it" in bed.)


Hmm, this seems like a bit of victim blaming. Other than women born into wealthy families, women's roles in the 1800s were very socially limited. Unfortunately, Mary Bee didn't fit into the nice little boxes so she was a bit of an outcast. Even in her tiny, remote community.

I think of martyr as someone who makes an active choice to do something that will hurt them. Mary Bee did try to fit into social roles and become a wife. It didn't work out. She felt like it'd never work out which is why she took her life.




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Well, outcasts don't run the town meetings either. And ladies worried about what people think aren't in the habit of having a man maintain his own guest room at your home for regular overnight visits. Especially NOT the pastor. Somehow you guys are missing the forest for the trees. And if she wanted a husband she could have sent back east for one. Easier to get than a harpsichord. And don't we meet her while she's plowing with that team of the biggest mules I've ever seen? Or is she really tiny, I guess I don't know. Size aside, if you ever get a chance, go look at the places and events where they've set up old time farming stuff. Or even the the cattle barns at fairs and stuff. I digress, but I think it might just give you a certain insight. And I have actually tried to handle a plow with a much smaller than that mule team. Honestly, those things. I looked up a picture to see if they were jack asses but no, they're mules. I'm going to find out how big Hilary swank is. Anyway, that was a very important visual clue as to Miss Mary. And when that dopey guy was refusing her proposal before she was even finished, I knew he was thinking about those goddamn mules. She had been out there for awhile, I bet she was famous far and wide.

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She wasn't actually running the town meeting, although she did express her opinions in it.

It's also not clear that women could actually send for husbands back then (like men could for wives.)

I'm not sure what you're trying to get across here -- that the guy didn't want to be bossed around like a mule? He already made that clear on his own.

It seems pretty clear that she was having trouble finding a mate, and that this upset her greatly, despite all her (relative) material success.

Not sure all women would care about this in real life, but her character appeared to.

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And I disagree with you Devans00. She would have been a catch and probably would have had a choice of husbands.

Men needed someone who could work beside them and the fact that she could also maintain a comfortable home, cook a great meal, sew and had social graces are big time perks.

Many men also would have seen the advantage of combining resources.

Life was hard and to score a woman who could not only handle it but create a comfortable home environment, is practical and knows and accepts the reality of the life would be a gem.

Not all would be so insecure as to have a problem with a woman who knows her mind either.

It was the men settling the west who first supported a woman's right to vote as their wives votes added to theirs was advantageous to both the man and the woman.


These are not men who would have a problem with a strong woman.

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In real life, she may have been considered a catch.

Within the confines of the story, she was not, for whatever reason.

That's all we need to know.

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Yes, Swank is NOT plain, but her character in this movie IS. Plus she is bossy. Shows how makeup can make the difference.

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I agree Hilary Swank is not "plain", but like Toni Collette, she kind of does and suggests plain types pretty well.

I think it's important to remember the film suggests that the various men may have rejected her, because of her apparent determination, ambitions and strength of purpose; traits they didn't share, whilst perhaps not realising they masked her depression. They saw this as her being "bossy", in a frontier environment and times, generally recognized as being dominated by males, not strong females.🐭

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They may have been okay with all of those traits if she hadn't in fact been bossy.

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Right. She needed more in make-up to perhaps make her look more weather-worn. I think the "bossiness" would have turned more men away in that era. To me it was an attraction -- not bossiness, but the ability think logically, plan ahead, and do what needed to be done.

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While by no means a ravishing beauty, she's fairly good looking and has a hot body, as well. Reminds me of "The Tall T" when Randolph Scott and Richard Boone kept referring to the middle-aged, and still attractive, Maureen O'Sullivan as "plain."


You have incredibly low standards. Swank is beyond plain and even ugly. It was disgusting to see her naked by the fire. I would have rolled away.

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She's flat-out ugly to me. Obviously we have different standards. For me "plain" is Anne Hathaway or Carey Mulligan. "Attractive" is Emma Watson or Jenna Louise Coleman. "Hot" is Bella Thorne or Sophia Bush.

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Anne Hathaway is far less attractive than Swank, who at least look good made up.

I wouldn't bang Hathaway with your dick. She looks like a dude.

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It's Hollywood. Different standards. And she wasn't made up at all to look good in the film.

That said, her body was smoking. Bigger boobs than I expected, very lean/trim otherwise.

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are you gay?

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