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What Kind of a World is This?


Where I live, funerals do not happen unless they are paid for. Is there really a place on this earth where funerals take place as shown in the movie and some government worker in a suit and tie sits there alone to witness it? Where I live, a person's dead body is picked up and sent to the medical examiner's office. It will sit there until there is no more room for it and be unceremoniously disposed of with no attempt to contact friends or relatives, unless you have thousands of dollars to pay for removal to a funeral home for cremation or burial. I watched 11 minutes of this movie and the premise here just made me so angry I could not continue. Does this reflect reality in Great Britain?

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What God-forsaken area do you live in?

Even in Los Angeles they cremate and keep the remains for quite sometime while attempting to find a family member. Then they are eventually buried. You can go on line the the county medical examiner and search for unclaimed bodies back to 1980, maybe earlier.

Then there is Hart Island in NYC. The largest tax funded cemetery in the world. "More than one million dead are buried ther, now approximately 1,500 a year." (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hart_Island,_New_York)

This happens almost everywhere. According to the article, it's not just homeless and unidentified. There are still potter's fields all over the country. If someone cannot afford a burial, they aren't just going to let him rot on the street. The taxpayers have to take care of the body.

Just because you don't know it happens doesn't mean it isn't so.

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The point is the funerals. I'm not saying municipalities do not cremate dead bodies and dump the ashes in a potter's field.

And I know what happens.

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He was reprimanded for that. They don't do that anywhere.



How can you expect your life to change if you don't change?

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O.K., interesting. Maybe I'll try this again. Did you like the movie?

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I did. It's not a fast paced movie. It's more a study of human nature. It's very interesting and you feel for everyone involved. There's really not a bad guy in the movie - with the exception of maybe his boss. But even he is just being realistic. Yet, he is being realistic in a very uncaring manner. It's a moving movie.

How can you expect your life to change if you don't change?

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In his research, Eddie Marsan visited several London councils that have employees like his character, John May, in the film. So the service exists. And burials take place. It is not too much of a stretch to imagine these council employees are authorised to pay for funerals. John May is a compassionate man who takes his job seriously and feels that nobody should go unmourned, so he uses his authority to pay for the funerals, and attends them when nobody else will because he comes to know and care about the deceased. His boss sacks him and criticises his expenditure because he (the boss) is a bureaucrat first and a human being second.

This is, quite simply, a beautiful film. Slow, yes, but subtle and deeply, deeply moving. If, as you say, you could not finish the film, I urge you to suspend any disbelief you may have and watch until the end. Its rewards are tremendous!



If she weighs the same as a duck, she's made of wood.

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It's a shame you didn't give this film a chance because of a small detail (which was addressed by his employers later on, that you can see in various trailers for the film).

Hardly worth getting "so angry" over. Many other films commit much bigger crimes!


"Look at it this way; in a hundred years who's gonna care?"

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Yes this is exactly what happens. It is an unusual and fascinating concept, maybe an anachronism..hence a good subject for a film. Every death is recorded by a court and each person is given a funeral whether there is anyone to pay for it or not.. and they are just like the ones in still life; a big empty room with just one mourner paid to be there by the local authority. Not everyone takes this role as seriously as John, as the film clearly shows.

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btw: I think its a great idea for a film, just the concept of a man who mourns for people who have noone, and then ends up with noone except them. Wow. this film blew my mind. Its also a parable, his job was the last remains of a continuous thread from your fellow villagers burying you and seeing you off, and an expectation that this would always happen even in our atomised society...but soon, like John, that will be gone...so much so that just the concept that it still happens surprises some people... @lavender1905 its a shame you didn't watch it past 11 mins

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When I read the title of this thread I thought the OP was referring to "What kind of world is this, where people die and there is no one to look for them/remember them/go to their funeral?". It is indeed shocking and I agree with @iynnkxrj that this is sadly the result of modern urban societies, where people don't know who their neighbours are, don't keep in touch with family etc. It is really sad and what the protagonist of the movie does is wonderful.

~*~

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For god's sake, can't you just accept the message of this movie rather than insist that it meet your standards?

You missed the whole point of this movie, lavender.


Actors do not have a job...they have a blast!

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One of the points of the film was that May was found redundant, partly because he kept billing the government for "funerals". (Or at least buying cheap coffins and paying priests to do bare-minimum services.) His supervisor reads him out for not cremating people and dumping them on the ground, which is exactly what he ends up doing (reluctantly) and his replacements do after him (happily).

So you may rest in the knowledge that the boroughs of London are apparently run by people who are just as inhumane as those who run your government.

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Thank you for your informative response rkhen.

Yeah, of course I don't want anyone's government to be inhumane. The point I guess that others have missed is that I am still smarting from what happened to a family friend who fell on hard times. He died too young and was scraped off the sidewalk and treated like so much bio-hazardous waste. While the coroner held his body ransom for weeks but no one has that kind of money.......

I can't take it anymore, but am glad that IMDB still has the "block this user" option (not for you of course).

Cheers....

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There was a front page story in today's Sunday new York Times about just such a situation: a seemingly friendless man is found dead in his apartment, and the relevant government officials track down relatives and heirs, arrange for his cremation, dispose of his goods.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/18/nyregion/dying-alone-in-new-york-city.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=photo-spot-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

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The commentors on here apparently do not live in the USA.
Unclaimed bodies are eventually buried but there's no ceremony and the bodies are NOT placed into great looking coffins like in this movie. (I loved this movie, btw.) They are buried in what I think are pine boxes, not treated in anyway. Then the coffins are placed 'en masse' in a potter's field, with 5-10 coffins side by side or buried on top of each other.

An exhusband died and was buried while I was working overseas. I did not hear about his death till a couple months later. He died in San Francisco and was Buried in Colma which is a 'town' of DEAD PEOPLE. It's where the cemetaries are for that area of the SF Peninsula. Mike Karp was not a homeless, unidentified person, but because land is limited there, he was buried ON TOP OF ANOTHER COFFIN, that had been buried a decade before (probably a family member, I can't remember, as this happened many years ago).

This movie was so sad! Reminded me of the Beatles song: Eleanor Rigby.
or "Is that alol there is my friends? Then let's keep dancing...."

LIFE IS A SERIES OF TRIPS TO THE GARBAGE CAN, AND NOTHING MORE.

— To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury
Signifying nothing.
— Macbeth (Act 5, Scene 5, lines 17-28)

The writing was perfect, so was the direction and the acting.
My "Kentucky Derby" hat is DOFFED to the writer. :)

Life is a journey not a destination. Fear nothing.

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Well, it's not that way EVERYWHERE in the US.

I work for a cemetery company. If there are no mourners or next of kin (and we've had a few), then the cemetery personnel step in.

Also, people have ALWAYS been buried on top of each other. It's a very common practice going back to the Grt Depression (that I'm aware). Yes, they are most likely cremated, but then a vault & coffin or urn are purchased - who cares if they're not the pretty fancy ones? No one's gonna see it again. Do you know what happens to a coffin - even in a cement vault - after 50 years? Cement eventually degrades, as do the coffins, and they don't degrade prettily.

We'd be better off as a society to respectfully inter the indigent or those with no family in green cemeteries where their body can nourish nature.

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