Awful ending

I guess we'll just have to disagree.

The way I saw it, David was very unlikable (and quite weird) from the outset and did not deserve a girl like Jill at all. Regardless of whether the girl he killed was a time loop (although she was actually the original Jill and his time loop equivalent), she was still there in the flesh... and was still the girl he supposedly loved... and yet he plunged a knife into her simply to allow himself to remain with the other Jill who had forgiven him. And it worth noting that she only forgave him because she wrongly believed that he understood her, when he was in fact just repeating what the original Jill had said.

For me, it was not a happy ending... it was an ending where a nice girl gets duped into remaining in a relationship with a creepy loser.
However, I do believe that the movie intended it as a happy ending... which is why it left me unsatisfied.

I agree. I was really happy he got rid of the version of Jill that he did. She was miserable and her reaction to his kiss was ridiculous and I couldn't stand her.

That said, I do wish the movie went even darker at the end. Love the climax with everyone, but it was very pg13 and needed to go q lot further.

I totally disagree with the OP. Loved the movie and hated that bitchy version of his GF. She was far more unlikable then her counterpart and David. Plus it was just a time glitch. She was the exact same person just a different version

And David was really in love with her and knew he made a mistake. She was just a b!tch and a way more unlikable then he was IMO. I mean, if she would have went to the party acting like a woman who was hurt by his action instead of acting like a bitchy demon slut maybe I would feel different, but I think they made her that way so we could get passed David killing her. I know I had no problem with it.


And if given the chance many of us would probably* do the same over losing the love of our lives

I figured when time caught up all the people who killed the other version of themselves would be gone, but I guess that would have been too predictable. This was a treat for me because I rarely see horror films I like anymore. I liked this

Solid 8/10





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Guy was an ass for letting the other girl kiss him for so long (he didn't exactly pull back, surprised; he let it go on).

When he killed the other Jill he turned into a nasty disturbing piece of work. The living Jill should be afraid.

Rhys Wakefield is a weird looking dude. Looks like Patrick Bateman with his herb mint gel facial masque on.

Wow, for someone trying to pull someone up on their supposed anti-men agenda you sure are sexist.

I can't even believe this thread. Some silly person calls the girl a b***h for dumping her boyfriend after he kisses another girl. Then, the boyfriend manipulates the second girl to win her back and kills the original so she doesn't *beep* it up. She's the bitch? Jesus christ who are you people? What an absolute joke. You think she's a b***h for verbally abusing him after he kissed another girl? Yeah, and I bet if you caught your girlfriend kissing another guy you'd be all understanding and not be mad right? Oh, and if she's genuinely sorry you'd just forgive her on the spot right? I truly can't believe the people here on this board. Especially that idiot that thinks that using a wide vernacular means you are automatically right even if it doesn't make sense.

This isn't about her being a b***h - even though she had EVERY right to. Its about him manipulating the double and then KILLING the first one to cover his tracks. The point is that his original girlfriend is now dead because he just couldn't understand that s**t happens and you pay for the consequences, so he thinks up this genius plan where he can get away with murder and secure his relationship with a girl he has manipulated. Coz thats the right thing, right? He was unlikable, selfish and a murderer. It was not a happy ending.

@ereiamjh-4, i'm so sorry that you've had to deal with these complete dim-witted people.

Oh, and this movie was garbage. Good premise, but ruined by an utterly ridiculous assumption that if people are faces with their double, they would automatically think that they are trying to kill them and therefore should try to kill them first. I don't know how this got past the script stage.

Looking back at this post, I realise that I got a bit mad, so sorry. But I stand by what I said so I won't edit it.

To be fair, Jills portrayal was pretty clunky and misogynistic. It's hard to deny that she IS 'bitchy' in the film...except the film seems to believe the audience is intended to like her...because that's just how women are...which is why you have to confuse, manipulate, murder/replace them when they get angry with you and a time loop falls in your lap. It's pure grief otherwise.

Would have been funny if the film was somewhat self-aware, but it's played so straight that I'm pretty sure it's just a reflection on the maturity and lack of experience of the screen writer. It's written so earnestly that I think it would be hard to find it offensive rather than bewilderingly inept.

Edit: To be clear, none of these characters is really fleshed out beyond flimsy stereotypes falling on both ends of the "is this vanilla/is this borderline offensive" scale. Do I need to bring up the black kid? Yeah, I can call him 'the black kid' cause that's about the level of dignity the film affords the character.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2395385/board/inline/220020542?d=220057563 &p=1#220057563

Except he doesn't murder her, only half of her, only the side of her personality that was venomous toward him, bored of him, and who wanted to move on. No one "vanishes" (take a look through the thread linked above). They are temporally split iterations of the same person. Kill one, and the other one takes over at the point of convergence. If both are still alive, they merge 50/50. The film clearly shows us this with the character that finds herself, falls in love with herself, and quite literally kisses herself.

Although it's certainly a bit ambiguous, during the scene where he's waving at her other version in the crowd an expression comes over his face that I take as him having an epiphany. In that moment he realizes that he can manipulate history by removing the version he didn't like from the equation (i.e. he in fact DID "know what the outcome would be", or at least hoped what it would be). How did he come to this conclusion? Well, he'd been observing what had been going on throughout the night. They'd jumped back in time, but then were "catching up" to that other timeline fragment, which strongly indicates both versions would inevitably merge back together, with the variances that had occurred during that time-frame merging as well.

I find it reasonable that he could come to the conclusion that killing one version of Jill would leave the other version to come through 100% during the final convergence moment. Doesn't mean what he did wasn't brutal, but it was not him lashing out at her for how she'd treated him. It was a calculated decision full of hope, it was him deciding to take fate into his own hands and to take advantage of the opportunity the meteor energy was providing. Was it selfish? It was. The selfless act would have been to have both versions merge back together, which would have reduced her vitriol against him, but not to the extent that vanquishing her did (since it left solely the "nicer" version), and for him to then take his chances with that re-conjoined version.

But Jill's actions were just as selfish. She killed his soul. He killed her body. While this bizarre phenomenon was going on, there was really no difference between the two. Body, soul, one and the same, since offing one iteration only made the other entity take precedence. Killing both versions, now that would have been genuine murder and worthy of the appropriate consequences. So we have to decide if he really thought he knew what the outcome would be, and given how he acts during his epiphany, I think he did. At the very least, he at least hoped he understood how it would play out. And it turns out he was right. If he'd been wrong, well then I'd be on your side of the argument. It was a calculated risk and it paid off. Even if this is the case, though, it’s not very clear in the film and I think should have been presented a bit more prominently.

But given this factor, if true (which is what I’m going with), I understand why he rationalized what he did. Killing one version of Jill was little more than killing a video game character, with consequences no greater, since during that timeframe there wasn’t a “real” single Jill entity (which applies to anyone who time-jumped). BOTH Jill’s together were the real Jill, with her personality split apart along with her body. What he did was extinguish one half of her personality, leaving the half that liked him to move on past the point of convergence, providing him a second chance to do things “better” this time around. Now having said that, if he didn’t learn anything from this experience Jill’s going to end up resenting him just like she did pre-time split, so he better man up and get it right this time and stop being such a fragile little wuss about it (which the movie implies is what’s happening).

Regardless of his actions, however, her treatment of him was very unwarranted and had been brewing for a while. She behaved very cruel toward him in that scene. She used the kiss as a catalyst to say things that had obliviously been on her mind for a while. Her true motivation wasn't the kiss, but her need for something new, her desire for something other than him. She'd grown bored with him and wanted a more adult relationship (or what she perceived as a more adult relationship). This is absolutely her prerogative, but she handled it very poorly. There was no reason to crush his spirit the way she did.

So although him killing her may have been reckless and was definitely forged in the fires of a selfish love, it wasn’t cruel, and in fact the severity of the act is greatly diminished by the fantastic circumstances they found themselves in. Doesn’t mean I agree with what he did. But I understand it, especially if he did indeed grasp the consequences and potential outcome of his actions. On the other hand, she was just plain mean and cruel. Breaking up with him would have been very understandable, but there was absolutely no reason to shove his head in the dirt and piss all over his emotions. And then to go gallivanting around in front of him with another guy. Good lord. She didn’t deserve her fate, but she did deserve a good slap upside the head.
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