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Deus ex machina elements to solve such a simple story ? Really ?


Jesus, i just cant comprehend how easy it is in cinema to get away with horrible and lazy writing. Did the plot really have to resolve to magic to solve such simple problem as our protagonist had ? Couldnt he, i dont know, just walk down the same moment she did, or have bit of luck with the final last plane ?

Not only does this introduce an paranormal element to the story that is in no way explained or even seems to not surprise anybody in that world it also seems to make the whole story really shallow. So our guy is the chosen one, the one god himself or the powers to be chose to help since .... since the plot required it.
Why at that exact moment? He didnt do anything special, he didnt try hard, he didnt learn anything, overcome any of his weaknesses, he just was "chosen".

Why would god help him, why not cure cancer, solve worlds hunger, *beep* you god.
But in all seriousness, nice visuals , very poor plot, overall a mediocre at best animation.

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Exactly, form over substance.
The place from which we get craptastic movies like transformers or cars 2.

And thats why i say its mediocre, it isnt trying to be good, it just tries to be ... good enough, but sometimes good enough isnt what will satisfy us.

The fact this thing won an academy award is a slap in the face to any animator and storyteller anywhere and future proves that oscars are a sponsored farce where big studios buy the awards with ether money, promises or with connections.

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Oh i agree, but the problem is that looks alone is something that could carry your movie 50 years ago, not today.
Today its hard to find a high budget movie or animation that isnt just beautiful to look at, with great cinematography in everything, with even superheroes movies like Thor having beautiful costumes and sets, and any high budget blockbuster like pirates 3 or transformers 3 having state of the art cgi.
Problem is that today those products are worked on by hundreds of best in their fields, so its hard for it to look bad. And sure, some movie try to look more stylized, like Life of Pi, but its hard to say it makes them a better movie.

As for paperman, it was not better looking than your usual pixar/disney movie or short, it had a different style, but it was not a "better" style.
Whos to say that it looked better than any student made short that comes out every year, just because it had an army of animators paint over each 3d rendered frame by hand. It didnt look better to me, even as someone who knows a lot about 3d, i was not impressed.
The thing we can always rate easily is plot and acting, since those are 2 common elements for every movie, from the first black and white silent movies to cgi animations.
And while the character animation was good if not generic, the shoots did they work and didnt look especially amazing, the narrative was flat uninspired and full of cliched solutions.

And as someone who does know 3d animation i know they they didnt work any harder than countless other artists, they didnt try anything risky or innovative ( hand painting over 3d animation, i mean really ? do we really need someone to paint over 3d to make it look more like 2d, but still you can tell its 3d ? ), they didnt try to tackle any controversial or iportant subject and so they didnt end up with anything really impressive.

Its won only because of its producer name, nothing more, nothing less. There are few dozen amazing amateur 3d shorts coming out every year, but since they are created by some no names starting of in this industry with no connections they have no chance for nomination.
So we are left with anything with a big name behind it getting praised and awarded, and honestly, it is insulting to me as an artists, and i have no problems with criticizing it.

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