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Gorgeous Visuals, Horribly Saccharine


Seeing the combination of 2D over 3D is visually pleasing to the eye. But the love story is painfully cheesy. Standard Disney fare.

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True, but it was a cute little addition to Wreck-It Ralph. Not perfect but certainly worth a watch.

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Well of course. It's Disney. I feel like that's complaining about eating an as-advertised painfully cheesy cheese cake and finding that to be "painfully cheesy." It was kind of the point. The visuals, with the wide innocent eyes for our protagonists and the black and white colors reflecting a black and white morality, also pointed to that. It all contributed to a specific world, and what you consider cheesy was a part of that.

I don't agree with the "horribly saccharine" either, because imho that was the point. It was just properly saccharine and presented in such a way that it worked. Mind you, I might be being a bit over defensive here because I really loved it and I know it shouldn't bother me when someone else doesn't, but I guess I'm reacting to the general nitpicking nature of reviewing and internet boards that I think critiques for the sake of critiquing and perpetuating opinions as fact, rather than criticism for more altruistic ends. If the criticism doesn't add to peoples perception of a work, doesn't comfort them or expand their view into something more enlightened, and instead just tears down for the sake of it and not to build something up, I guess I just don't see the point.

Even so, the ending, with them just standing there smiling, I thought that was very much not standard Disney fare and had this note of peaceful ambiguity that gave the viewers more rope than they're usual given by animated films.

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I loved the short as well, but I am curious:

What, in regard to the content of the short, do you believe portrayed a "black and white morality"? I have my own opinions on the subtextual content of the piece, but it never struck me as making any thematic comments on morality.

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Oh lol I completely forget. I think I meant that the black and white colors reflected a kind of black and white operatic sentimentality, rather than morality, with the feelings being represented being very kind of one end of the spectrum or the other: George being beholden to this connection and Meg getting caught up in the adventure and I don't know.

But I actually disagree with that now. In retrospect, I actually think it was very nuanced in the feelings represented and the characterizations.

I don't know what I mean now. It's been a while since I last watched it now. All I know is that it gave me maaaad feelz. My favorite part, well one of them, was when George first threw away the first paper plane that stuck to him, all despondent and having given up hope, and then they all converged on him at once, like they were trying to convince him to be hopeful again!

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"Pinocchio" and "Dumbo" are Disney and they're not cheesy... They were actually pretty dark and well made films (both are masterworks). "Paperman" is a highly mediocre and lazy short film (they stole a lot from another short film "Signs"). It was just Oscar bait (its black and white style was like "The Artist").

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I am curious: is realism a quality you seek out in animation?
If so, realism of what filmic elements?
If of some kind of aesthetic or conceptual measure, may I ask why you like animation at all?

I see no place for aims of photorealism or narrative reality in animation. Wouldn't a work holding those values be better served in live action photography?

Or are you just a reductive troll who takes a metaphor literally, reading the denotation instead of the connotation; the prose rather than the poetry?

Paperman, like the best animation, is a visual representation of a metaphorical reality, not a literal one.

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I know this is an old post, but you sir have won the internet!

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It's cheesy and very unrealistic.

What made you think this was supposed to be a documentary? And could you please name two scenes of Wreck it Ralph, for instance, that struck you as realistic?

I pity anyone who thinks that is real and life will work out like that.

Maybe it just didn't happen to you. Maybe it will, maybe it won't. Maybe it happened to others. Strike that, I know for a fact that's been known to happen.

For every lie I unlearn I learn something new - Ani Difranco

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It won't last.

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I pity anyone who thinks that is real and life will work out like that.


Well no sh*t sherlock. Anyone who thinks paper planes will come to life and lead them to their true love needs to be locked away in a f'cking mental asylumn. But let's be even more obvious: this short film is part of DISNEY. A FAMILY corporation. It's a quality short film but realism is clearly not the point of what Disney tries to go for when they make films about princesses turning into frogs, lions acting out Hamlet, and monsters running an energy industry for the whole family to enjoy. I actually feel really bad for the people who can't appreciate the sentimentality of pieces like this.




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I guess you are comparing it to the other rom com BS fare that Hollywood is notoriously know for producing. You are indeed a sad sad person.

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