Seeing how everything Phoebe Waller Bridge touches seems to turn to shit I wouldn’t be surprised if this turns out to be the worst Bond film ever (right now my current worst one is Diamonds Are Forever, this may dethrone it). After hearing the production was a “shit show” and that they were no longer allowed to use the term “Bond girl” and that Lashona Lynch is basically the Rey of James Bond, I knew we were in trouble.
the last two films for me were fairly awful, especially Spectre (2015)
Skyfall (2012) to be started off well enough but just fell apart after Sévérine got waxed. not to mention the Home Alone-inspired ending. . . . .
Judging by the trend of Bond films in the last decade and our ""apparent"" love of shit that Hollywood caters to, I assume that it will be quite bad. I agree that DaF is the worst 007 movie. I do not think that this will be that bad but it's possible.
Bad enough to retroactively make fans consider maybe the previous Craig entries they once loved are also shite. That's the danger of going out with a real stinker.
Bond has been on hold ever since the unfortunate casting of Craig and the ridiculous decision to make the character more PC and humorless. I look forward to the casting of the next Bond, preferably a white, British, heterosexual birth-male actor, and a reboot back to the days when Bond movies were exciting and fun.
From what I understand Bond is either going to retire for good or die in this one and Lashona Lynch is going to take over as the new James Bond and the next movie will be about her.
When it leaked that she was going to be the 007 in the movie while Craig was in exile it gave a big clue that the idiots making the movie had not understanding of James Bond at all. 007 isn't a title that is given to an agent and then when the agent dies, retires or whatever is handed to another agent. It was a moniker that Craig was handed because he was the 7th double 0 agent, if he was the only double 0 agent then when he left the next one would then be 008... for them to act like 007 was just a badge that was slapped on the next agent ignores the most basic premise of James Bond.
If they truly have someone other than Craig as 007 in the movie then it will be a complete fail and become the worst Bond movie ever.
I think there's some hope this is better than Spectre & QoS. The trailers don't seem all that bad, except for the part when Bond hands his girl(who's wearing an elegant dress in a slum) a rifle and a pistol and she fires them both at the same time..plus she fights the bad guys in that dress without even a bra underneath.
Oh, another thing I'm worried about isn't every Bond's swan song their worst movie?
Connery - NSNA
Lazenby - OHMSS
Moore - AVTAK
Dalton - LtK
Brosnan - DAD
Weird, am I the only one in this thread that enjoyed Diamonds Are Forever?
The chase sequence with the Mach 1 was absolutely awesome. And I loved the scenery and cinematography.
Also, Jill St. John was smoking hot.
I would have pegged one of Moore's to be the worst, like Moonraker or For Your Eyes Only or The Spy Who Loved Me. I think I nearly dozed off during The Spy Who Loved Me, as Moore seemed to be sleepwalking through the role and I couldn't even remember what the main villain was up to.
But I agree with you that License To Kill was not one of the worst at all (it's actually one of the best Bond films), and while Die Another Day is cheesier than most, it's also shorter and more entertaining than most Bond films, too. A View To A Kill is a mediocre film, but I really liked Christopher Walkens and Grace Jones. They had a bizarre yet captivating chemistry together.
I’ll give it a chance but I am concerned about the 163 minute running time. Spectre already had massive pacing issues. Mission: Impossible - Fallout had the exact running time as Spectre but Spectre just feels like it goes on and on whereas Fallout has fantastic pacing and writing and keeps you on edge of your seat the entire time.
Hopefully the script is solid, the action set pieces are exciting and there's never a dull moment unlike in Spectre.
I disagree, on rewatches I like the zipping pacing of Quantum and I think it works for what they were going for in that film.
I think it could have been a lot better but the movie had a troubled production due to the writer’s strike. I think as an epilogue to Casino Royale it works well enough.
Spectre for me is the most boring in the franchise, even Sam Mendes said after Skyfall that he didn’t want to do another one as he’d done everything he wanted to do with Bond in that film. The pacing issues I have with the film just hurt it on rewatches.
But I do agree running time analysis is probably meaningless, I just really hope they can sustain the entertainment factor for that length of time because for me Spectre didn’t.
Spectre is beyond boring. I saw it once in the theater and hated it. Thought I'd try it again a couple times since and can't get through the first hour.
Yep, it’s a poorly paced slog. You can tell
Mendes and the writers struggled after the acclaim of Skyfall. The script for Spectre definitely needed many more rewrites before production began.