This movie/documentary screams alarmism. Not only is it alarmist but it has the nerve to blame the government and private industry. Nobody forced your family or child to eat McDonalds or make poor choices everyday. You are the reason why you or your child is obese.
Personal responsibility is something this country has lost.
"When there's no way out, you find a deeper way in."
You're right about this country losing personal responsibility. However, its much deeper than that. The government subsidizing bad food is just a the start. It may have started out innocent long ago subsidizing certain farms and foods, but its changed for the worse. People buy cheap and can afford the stuff they shouldn't eat. It gets stamped with labels making claims that are misleading or just plain lies. The FDA/RDA approves them so people think its just as good for them as real food. This goes way beyond sugar. We have to re-evaluate what we think of as good for us. Its been taught to us for decades. Many other countries have way different perspectives on food, but our disease of misinformation is spreading and literally turning into disease. People have been brainwashed to think "It wouldn't be approved if it was really bad for us." Ketchup is considered a tomato, cheese is supposed to be good for you because it has 'calcium'. Dairy pretty much owns the word "REAL" so people think any alternative to "REAL" dairy are bad so they go ahead and eat blocks of cheese, tubs of [dairy] yogurt, ice-cream, etc, etc, and think they are "doing a body good." Its all lies. Even when people know that 'processed foods' are bad for us, no one thinks of dairy as 'processed' because have actual campaigns to combat good information with 'their' information. ALL DAIRY IS PROCESSED unless you drink it right from the cow. But there's even mechanisms in place to deem that as bad. Well it is when a sizable % of what comes out of a cow in this day and age is not milk, but other discharges. Therefore they approve drugs to inject with the cows or filtering methods to make the milk "safe". What?!?! Kids are taught misinformation in school--another branch of the government. Our local school districts' health education department is provided with their learning materials by Dairy Council. They get cow milk/chocolate milk for their snack. That is a complete conflict of interest. Its hard to teach kids at home one thing then get told another in school. We were specifically told that they are not allowed to provide a juice in place of milk because they school would lose funding for the milk/dairy break program or whatever its called. Yes, I am against dairy, but that's just an example. We can teach our kids fruit is good, then they see "fruit snacks" that are anything, but fruit. Yes, it is choice and personal responsibity, but you try to teach your kids certain things, but it gets difficult when most kids and families 'drink the Koolaid' so-to-speak so more confusions sets in because you are teaching them things that are opposite of what the school teaches them and what they see their friends eating. Check out Jamie Olivers Food Revolution and the battle he had just trying to get flavored milk replaced with less bad versions, and real veggies in place of salt soaked garbage and you see just a little bit of what its come to. Its not like it happened overnight and all of a sudden we can blame the government. Its much deeper--lobbiests, large companies, 'approving' organizations, politicians, etc, etc. However, the gov't is going to have to change their approach, decline lobby money, start promoting good healthy real food and stop subsidizing companies and farmers, that produce crap. A lot of the farmers are stuck in a bad position too because they have to choose between getting subsidies to keep growing feed corn that goes to companies that are producing processed meat/animal byproducts and corn syrup/HFCS. If they want to grow real corn for real food they risk 'losing the farm'. Its a big mess anyway you look at it. Ok, I'm going off track. Again, I agree that we have to take personal responsibility for what we put in our bodies, but the information that's out there needs to be corrected so, aside from minor arguments and preferences, we're all on the same page as to what we 'should' eat--that way when we don't do right for ourselves, we have no one to blame, but ourselves.
shareHear hear. My family and I went all-natural, all-organic a few months ago. No processed foods. My allergies are gone, my depression is gone, I sleep better, my skin is healthier, I have higher energy, etc. I also made a personal decision to cut out pork cuz pigs are nasty as *beep*.
shareNo need to take a shot at pigs ... the obesity epidemic happened way after people started to eat pigs, and personally I do not care what you think about pigs. If you eat organically farmed pork from responsible ranchers you are still eating healthfully.
shareI didn't say pigs were solely responsible for the obesity epidemic, but they definitely contribute. We eat a LOT more pork than we used to. Eating pigs from a responsible rancher is less unhealthy to be sure, but there is really no healthy way to eat a pig. Or a lot of other popular meats for that matter. Having pork every now and then isn't going to kill you, but it's not gonna help you either. I just think it's disgusting and I don't like the taste of it anyway.
You say you don't care what I think about pigs, yet you responded.
Poverty, which is created by the government and private industry, forces people to buy cheaper food, which is generally less healthy and loaded with sugar.
Take your head out of the sand and look outside your bubble for a change.
Government creates poverty? Not until Obama came along, and it will get much worse with a $10/hour min wage.
Junk food is cheaper? Do you even know how to shop and cook? Rice, wheat (bread/pasta), beans/lentils, potatoes are much cheaper. Veggies are not expensive. Food stamps for the poor are more than enough for healthy food. Start teaching the poor how to shop and cook!
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Veggies aren't expensive, but doing something with them that isn't bland generally takes quite a while to prepare.
Sure bread is easy to scoff down while rice and pasta are good ways to bulk up a decent meal. However, bread, rice and pasta are all starchy foods and they will cause you to put on weight too. Intake of starch need to be limited just as intake of sugar does.
Also let's not forget that vegetables go off pretty quickly. Whereas processed foods are more easily preserved in a freezer for when you need them. While fruit is rotting in the bowl, that big bag of potatoes will probably last another week. (Potatoes are starchy foods too, of course.)
Not sure why you think a minimum wage contributes to poverty. Would people do better with a lower wage than that? Weird logic there...
[quote]Government creates poverty? Not until Obama came along, and it will get much worse with a $10/hour min wage.
Yeah, 'cause there was no poverty before 2009 (when Obama took office).
And how is it that raising the minimum wage from $7.25 to $10.10 (Obama's proposal) going to create more poverty?
You sound like a right wing nut and corporate apologist.
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You are an imbecile if you dont understand how raising an artificial minimum wage can have a negative effect. If it's all good, did it ever occur to you why they just don't make the minimum wage 1,000,000 dollars an hour so everyone can be a billionaire? Also, the word "poverty" has become meaningless if one of the issues of poverty is having a diet that is too caloric.
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Poverty does not force people to buy cheaper food.
Water costs far less than soda pop, or any other unhealthy drink for that matter. Is there a water aisle? Of coures not, but, there is a soda aisle with dozens of different flavors of unhealthyness.
Brown rice is insanely cheap when compared to chips, but look at the supermarket and you see a small shelf for brown rice... and an entire freaking aisle for chips. Why? Because that's what idiots buy.
No one is forcing someone to buy soda pop when they can buy water.
No one is forcing someone to buy a big bag of chips, when they can buy brown rice.
People choose to do this. Why? Because many people want something yummy over something that is actually good for them.
Whenever my company takes coffee orders, people order frappachinos and mocha lattes (hundreds of sugary calories)... very few people order black coffee (10 calories).
No one is forcing them to order a frappachino, and, black coffee costs FAR less than a frappachino.
I get so sick of people making these outrageous contentions that healthy food is absurdly expensive. It's not.
For dinner: a bag of frozen chicken, a box of brown rice, and a jug of water costs far less than a Hungry-Man, soda, and chips.
For breakfast: a cup of black coffee and some steel cut oats do not cost much more than a glass of orange juice and a bowl of sugary cereal
People fall back on the, "eating healthy is expensive", because they want a crutch to lean on. It's really not expensive to eat healthy.
The real problem is ignorance. Too many people think that drinking a 20 oz glass of orange juice with breakfast is healthy. Orange juice is great if you have a few ounces of it... it's not good to pour yourself a gigantic glass every morning. My wife kept wondering why she had heartburn... I told her to start drinking 5-6 oz. of orange juice with breakfast instead of 20 oz, her heartburn magically went away.
Is there a water aisle? Of course not...
Brown rice is insanely cheap when compared to chips
For dinner: a bag of frozen chicken, a box of brown rice, and a jug of water
The real problem is ignorance. Too many people think that drinking a 20 oz glass of orange juice with breakfast is healthy. Orange juice is great if you have a few ounces of it... it's not good to pour yourself a gigantic glass every morning.
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See the movie before you mindlessly inject your right-wing garbage. How about you take some personal responsibility to actually see and think about a documentary you are reviewing instead of just dropping in to crap all over the place?
This is the first movie that really does a great job or dispelling the myth that this is about personal responsibility or liberty. It's about bribery, corruption and incompetence.
"Documentary" LOL!
shareSure are a lot of food industry shills on this board...
shareI was shocked by amount of fast food they offer in schools in USA. That is plain wrong. Children don't really know what is healthy. Child will always prefer big mac to broccoli. This is a food crime.
shareThis movie/documentary screams alarmism. Not only is it alarmist but it has the nerve to blame the government and private industry. Nobody forced your family or child to eat McDonalds or make poor choices everyday. You are the reason why you or your child is obese.
Personal responsibility is something this country has lost.
saying it 2x just makes it 2x as much nonsense
shareBut it's not nonsense. I eat hamburgers, fries, tacos, pizza, etc. But I realize it's my responsibility not to eat too much of it too often, and to get a lot of physical exercise. The result of my taking personal responsibility is that I'm not fat. The same thing would work for the kids and their parents in this film. Most of the parents are also obese. They eat and allow their children to eat irresponsibly. It's their decision, nobody else's. Blaming the government or MacDonald's is lame excuse making so they won't feel bad about themselves as they ride the electric shopping cart down the aisle at Walmart to get that industrial-size bag of potato chips.
shareIf you aren't fat, it isn't because you are more "responsible" than someone who is. Two people can eat an identical diet, and do an identical amount of exercise, and one will be thin and the other obese. You're lucky that your metabolism and gut microbiome keep you thin. So am I. I eat as much of anything I want, whenever I want it, and never exercise, and I've been thin my entire life.
shareYou say that you eat as much of anything you want, whenever you want it, and never exercise, and you've been thin your entire life. Yes, I'd have to agree, you are lucky.
But I'm not lucky. If I ate and sat on my ass like the people in this film do, I'd be fat. Nobody can eat and exercise like I do and be obese. I'm thin because I take responsibility for my own weight and don't look for excuses and others to blame.