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Almost certainly won't match Moana domestically


And Moana's box office was already underwhelming.

The stuff that really does well here is cheap, idiotic crap like Secret Life of Pets, Minons and Sing.

Even China is showing us up on this.

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Yeah, well "Coco" isn't as kid-friendly as those other films. No, I was wrong, it's not as parents-of-small-children-friendly! Some parents won't take their kids to any film that includes stuff they don't want to explain to their kids, like, you know, death.

I'm not surprised it's doing well in China. China has a very old tradition of staying in touch with one's ancestors through ritual and gifts to the dead, or at least it did in centuries past. I don't how much of that remains in modern China, but apparently there's enough for people to like this film.

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Good point, otter. I think they are atheistic now, though.

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Certainly the government's official policy is atheism, but various forms of religious observance still go on.

And I wonder if the tradition of keeping in touch with The Ancestors is really part of a religion. I mean there are people who believe in ghosts who aren't religious, right?

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You are correct...again!

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Probably not on time with Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle, The Last Jedi, and Ferdinand rolling in soon. Who could really say what its competition will look like from the presence of those other films, where one of them is especially a Star Wars film? Heck, Moana had its run ended shortly after Rogue One the last time too. The Olaf short may also more or less helped that matter for Coco at the box offices too.

Meanwhile The Star became a little sleeper hit just fine, but still no Prince of Egypt in a sense. Considering the premise of that movie, I wonder if Sony would plan to keep that momentum around throughout the holidays?

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It's even worse now.

It most certainly won't even reach $200 million domestically.

Looks like it may top out at about $185 million.

Not good.

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It's even worse now.

It most certainly won't even reach $200 million domestically.

Looks like it may top out at about $185 million.

Not good.
You have this passive aggressive way of picking on certain movies and looking at the Box Office take as "Bad" "Not Good" and then being wrong.

Coco will indeed reach $200 Million easily. It won't match the domestic haul of Moana but why should it? When it doesn't reach the WW take of Moana why would that be considered bad or a tragedy?

For discussion's sake why not share your insights.

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My "insight" is it deserves at the very least the success of cheap crap as Minions, DM3, Sing and Secret Life of Pets. All of which have grossed a boatload more than Coco.

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My "insight" is it deserves at the very least the success of cheap crap as Minions, DM3, Sing and Secret Life of Pets. All of which have grossed a boatload more than Coco.
I'm not sure what is meant by "Cheap" in this case. Cheaply made, cheaply written, Cheaply marketed?

Minions was released as a summer movie and a spin-off so it had tremendous financial momentum. Coco was released in the fall and would definitely NOT do as well and the marketing campaign and release window reflects that reality.

Are you suggesting or pointing at the audience that have not discovered Coco as having a predilection towards vapidity, or do you feel it is an inferior but superior product than a Minions? Money doesn't correlate to audience success and your applause to Coco's Golden Globe suggests that you know that.

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Coco was released during the exact window as Frozen.

Yees...Illumination films are cheaply produced, crass and vapid almost without fail.

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