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The train fight scene is incredible


Let's look at some reasons why this fight scene kicks so much ass.

First off, there's very little music - it doesn't really kick in until near the end. This reminds me of the Bourne vs. Desh fight from The Bourne Ultimatum, still my favorite fight scene ever (they both also have the woman helping out before being knocked to the ground). No music makes the fight seem more realistic.

Then there's the psyche out: Bond sets Hinx on fire. Ah, that old cliche.
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Bond grabs the joist and tries to kick Hinx away so that he burns to death, but nope - Hinx throws Bond on his ass, takes off his jacket, and it's game on. Psyche!

Lastly, we see Hinx bull-charge the camera, so we see how scary it is from Bond's point of view, i.e., pretty fυсking scary.

An amazing fight scene from a dull Bond movie.

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I agree with everything! Amazing intense scene

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Yes, the train fight was great, but the best Bond train fight ever will always be From Russia With Love.
Whenever you go, there you are.

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The scene was let down by diluted sound effects, where were the resounding thwacks of the Connery/Lazenby/Moore years?

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That's still the best one for me. Mostly since it is one of the most realistic and evenly matched.

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Agreed, and it's not just the fight it's the tense build up as well: Grant arrogantly explaining everything to Bond as if he's already won, and Bond tricking Grant into opening the briefcase with the gas cartridge.

Bourne vs Desh was good as well, but we tend to expect tough fight scenes in modern films. The fact that From Russia With Love was made back in the 60s, when brutal hand to hand combat scenes weren't part and parcel of every film, that makes it even better for me.

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Lastly, we see Hinx bull-charge the camera, so we see how scary it is from Bond's point of view, i.e., pretty fυсking scary.

An amazing fight scene from a dull Bond movie.


Arguably the best part of the film and should have either have been the climax or the epilogue. Bond was physically outmatched by a henchman who wasn't cartoonish or buffoonish. I'd say bring Bautista's character back for the next one; even if he's in a neck brace and confined to a wheelchair.
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The worst thing a Bond film can be IMO, is ordinary and SPECTRE was just that. Don't get me wrong, the money was all up on the screen but the story was lacking, given the subject matter and how important Blofeld is to the books and the films.

The pre-credits sequence was enjoyable but there were some inconsistencies, regarding the crowd standing still and/or scattering during the fight on the helicopter.
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I don't mind the filmmakers trying to link all three previous films together to SPECTRE but it should've been done like this and explained by Blofeld:

* LeChiffre was a banker that SPECTRE used to finance some of their projects. They ordered his termination, for fear of him exposing SPECTRE's dealings.

* Quantum isn't an organization, it was one of SPECTREs projects to monopolize and monetize natural resources.

* SPECTRE positions themselves to buy the list of undercover operatives that Silva has but thanks to Silva's "mommy issues" and Bond's involvement (again), they're foiled.

* Despite the failure to get the disk, SPECTRE senses an opportunity to undermine and control British Intelligence by having their man "C" exploit MI6s failings to push the 9 Eyes program.


Linking all of the "players" to one ring, via DNA, was far-fetched and not as meaty as it should have been. Having Blofeld explain the above, as opposed to being "The author of Bond's pain" makes it worthwhile and shows SPECTRE to be an organization that is highly intelligent and capable.
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Monica Bellucci was wasted in this flick. I was hoping she was going to re-appear as a member of SPECTRE or something.
The car chase in Rome was lacking because it took place on empty streets and there really seemed to be no tension.

Madeline Swan's character should have been the one to have the shootout with the SPECTRE goons in the desert instead of Bond, who was essentially incapacitated. It would've been the payoff to her being the daughter of an assassin.

They could've left out the climax in London. This flick didn't need it and it would've been better to leave Oberhauser/Blofeld a mystery until the next film.

They need to come correct for the next outing because SPECTRE really took the air out of a series that seemed to be revitalized, since Craig's first outing in Casino Royale.

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It reminds me more of the Batman vs Bane fight in The Dark Knight Rises; raw, brutal, no music, and the hero gets torn to pieces fighting for his life.

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@Mr_researcher Yep, that's a comparable fight scene.

Imagine Bane vs. Hinx!

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