Wow. Just wow. Total criminals are running around, beating, murdering, stealing everywhere and since they are part of the paramilitary, it's no big deal, they are above the law.
A small elite screws everyone else and if you're not happy with it, you die.
Whoever has a brain should GTFO out of that country, the faster the better. No better than Stalinist Soviet Union really.
I hate to admit but you are right
This movie reveals much more gruesome facts than i already seen everyday.
Don't get me wrong, for some reason i love indonesia; food, friends, childhood memories, etc, but for some... so much more reasons, i hate this country.
Paramilitary in indonesia isn't just pancasila youth, there is religious nuts called islamic defender front, they openly support terrorist that commit suicide bomb, and a lot more regional paramilitaries and/or mass organisations that seems above the law because the government official support them.
How about corruption? we are the champion, injustice? hell yeah
GTFO of this country? will do sir, canadian government already approved my permanent residence aplication (my sister lives there for 9 years and she sponsored me), and i'm moving out to saskatchewan canada with my wife and two sons in the near future,... gladfully.
but deep in my heart, i will always miss indonesia
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but deep in my heart, i will always miss indonesia
Paramilitary in indonesia isn't just pancasila youth, there is religious nuts called islamic defender front, they openly support terrorist that commit suicide bomb, [...]
GTFO of this country? will do sir, canadian government already approved my permanent residence aplication (my [...]
but deep in my heart, i will always miss indonesia
and how are you going to give us the proof of the connection between the religious nuts in 65 era and suicide bombers in 21st century? Your mindless opinion is dangerous, gentleman. This is going to impact the lives of innocent people you pull in this baseless opinion. And there were only two or so suicide bombing cases in the past in Indonesia don't talk as if it's an everyday thing. [I'm preventing myself from calling my fellow Indonesian as "idiot" here]
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No you're completely wrong, indonesia has the largest number of moslem citizen but indonesia is NOT islamic country, it support 5 diferrent religions: catholic, protestant, hindu, buddha and of course islam, the motto is "bhinneka tunggal ika" which is i think taken from the sansekerta language that means "unity in diversity"
It used to be run pretty well before the reformation era came in the late 90's and change everything from bad to worse.
Yes there's a movement to change this country from democratic to khilafah (whatever that means), those religious nuts even rented the biggest stadium in the country to officially declare that movement, and the government do nothing.
I'm not saying that islam is bad or every moslem is bad, i know a lot of good moslems, but man... the more fanatic they are, the worse they become.
Supposedly 80 percent of the country is Islamic. If you don't consider it an Islamic nation, you are either blind or stupid. I suspect it's both.
shareI'm not blind and you are plain stupid
So USA is a protestant nation
You're seeing the world from one point of view which is outdated and stupid; religion
It may be outdated and stupid (like your existence) but that doesn't remove the fact that it has a huge impact on culture.
shareOh and don't forget that this message boards is christian boards because 80% members of it are christian
shareConsidering the paramilitaries' actions it is shocking they still have a stronghold, open to discuss their actions. Absolutely no humanity shown, their delight of murder and rape was horrifying.
"I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not".
The paramilitary doesn't have a stronghold, they only have a lot of members (that maybe aren't that much compared to total population of Indonesians) and a connection with the military.
It's not open to talk about murder and rape here honestly, these paramilitary scums are open to discuss their win. There is different perception here, and even if they are making an open ceremony, it's not everywhere in Indonesia, it's just in some place. Like a political party doing a campaign, but only to the members. The rest of us don't give a *beep*
I hate them for their arrogance, but what military isn't arrogant? Ever heard of martial law? I bet Americans did. Closer to home?
Ooh... idiots arguing with each other. How cute. You guys honestly know what you are saying, right?
shareNo, Islam don't have huge impact in Indonesia culture, maybe because Islam religion is not from Indonesia history. It just come to Indonesia from Arab trader. Long before Islam came, there are Hindu and Buddha in Indonesia. And Indonesia is democracy nation and Indonesia law is not Islamic law. Not like Arab country. What huge impact in Indonesia are Corruption, Collution, and Nepotism.
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Yeah, I commented to my wife about it being a deeply dysfunctional kleptocracy that isn't going to develop as long as it is run the way it is. It seems clear that politics and bureaucracy are only run, Sopranos style, to line gangsters' pockets and not to actually serve the public.
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Brazil is in a very similar condition. Maybe worse, ultraviolent crime is common.
"You keep him in here, and make sure HE dosen't leave!"
Are you *beep* stupid OP? Or just plain idiot? Your topic boils my blood it reaches the top of my head. So you've watched ONE documentary and you dare conclude "Indonesia as a country is rotten to the core"?
Where do you live now I ask you? I will reveal just as how rotten your country AND your neighborhood AND any other nation on this planet are with a flick of my fingers.
I know Indonesia is not a socially perfect country, and there is so many daily idiocy I can found easily whenever I look, but it's only I and other Indonesians who can say that this country is rotten to the core without sounding like a total jackass OR fail retarded. Excuse my language as I excuse your idiocy.
A small elite screws everyone else and if you're not happy with it, you die.
Do you get paid for being part of the Pancasila Youth.
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indonesia is rotten to the core. I hope people boycott travel to the place after seeing this film.
I give my respect to those who have earned it; to everyone else, I'm civil.share
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@chernoylpants
Oooh, another Obama hater with something stupid to say as usual--blah,blah,blah. Of course, none of you idiots had anything to say about that stupid-a** idiot Bush getting us into a war based on a lie so he could justify going over to Iraq and taking over their oil. Whatever,keep bringing the Obama hate (yawn)----you still lost the 2012 election---bwah ha ha ha ha ha!
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