Bad even for Lifetime - Last Hours in Suburbia (2012) Discussion

[–] NickiDrea 12 years ago

Agreed. This movie was awful. And this is coming from someone who loves bad Lifetime movies.

The movie "The Accident" has a similar plot but is far superior to this.

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[–] cherry877 12 years ago

Same, I love bad lifetime movies, and I wasted 2 hours on this crap. I thought there was going to be a twist, but there wasn't, sooo stupid. Then end was a f-ing lame joke

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[–] PAPICHOLO1 11 years ago

iF YOU'D HAVE WATCHED THE MOVIE LIKE YOU SAID YOU DID,THEN YOU'D HAVE FOUND OUT THAT SHE INDEED WAS THE DRIVER AND INFACT DID KILL HER FRIEND...smfh.

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[–] PenguinCat 9 years ago

iF YOU'D HAVE WATCHED THE MOVIE LIKE YOU SAID YOU DID,THEN YOU'D HAVE FOUND OUT THAT SHE INDEED WAS THE DRIVER AND INFACT DID KILL HER FRIEND...smfh.

Caps King that was the dissappointing part of the movie. That we sat through the whoe damn thing only to find out she DID do it. Which is pretty much what I thought through the whole thing but hoped I was wrong.

Of course you were syfh there isn't much in there.

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[–] butwait 12 years ago

whack

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[–] Deez_Ns 12 years ago

I agree with everyone on here. Stupid plea deal. No twist at the end. Want my 2 hours back.

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[–] viewermom 12 years ago

Agreed. Absolutely horrible. What a waste. And it wasn't even a ghost like the description said----it was her guilts manifestation. Ugh.......

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[–] WileyDairyGnome 12 years ago

How was the plea deal bad? I don't care if she was a *beep* girl scout, she killed someone. I'd gladly accept life imprisonment if I killed my best friend. Sure it was an accident, but she was irresponsible.

-- I am a traveler of both time and space, to be where I have been

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[–] dana5570 12 years ago

I actually liked this movie! The ghost friend was friggin' annoying though. I think the twist was making us believe there would be a twist. I think the only reason her mom took the plea is because of what the prosecution had and it looked very cut and dry. She even said at some point that 2 years is better than a possible 20 she could get if she went to trial. Good people do bad things all the time unfortunately.

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[–] WileyDairyGnome 12 years ago

Seriously...2 years is nothing for what she did, and yeah in my opinion a good person can do bad things unintentionally, and still be a good person. Haha I actually kind of liked Jennifer (the ghost, well technically...the manifestation of her guilt) although if I were in Grace's position, and I was seeing things that weren't there, it would just make me more upset. All she did was talk to herself the whole movie, which sure that can sometimes help, but...I don't know, I'm over thinking.

Also, this movie was actually pretty good for lifetime. It didn't take itself too seriously. I watched it twice yesterday. Mainly because I missed the beginning, I still missed it the second time haha...but I caught the end of the beginning (if that makes sense) so I got the general idea of what was going on. The only thing that I absolutely hate about this movie is the title.

-- I am a traveler of both time and space, to be where I have been

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[–] jlfratilla 12 years ago

I enjoyed the movie and loved the "ghost" friend. It was insinuated at the beginning that the friend had been there since the accident, so I think the main character had become acclimated to the dead girl being there. That's why she wasn't upset about it.

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[–] NickiDrea 12 years ago

How was the plea deal bad? I don't care if she was a *beep* girl scout, she killed someone. I'd gladly accept life imprisonment if I killed my best friend. Sure it was an accident, but she was irresponsible.

With no prior record, in real life she could have gotten probation- a lot of probation, but still probation. That plea deal was not a good one.

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[–] WileyDairyGnome 12 years ago

But that's stupid...probation for killing someone? I seriously don't think that 2 years is that bad. Maybe that's just me. I mean I don't agree with her friend's mom slapping her and not inviting her to the funeral because obviously it was an accident and she had to have been feeling insanely guilty...but probation just seems like such a slap on the wrist.

-- I am a traveler of both time and space, to be where I have been

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[–] troypasquale-1 12 years ago

I tend to agree the plea deal was a good one considering that it appeared to allow her to turn herself in to the correctional facility directly as opposed to lingering in county lock-up until she was transferred on bus in shackles with other prisoners. Plus I think that as much as I liked and sympathized with Grace as a character I felt she deserved to do some time and I don't think two years is excessive at all. Plus if you consider what the detective told Ann (Grace's Mom) about the D.A. looking to make an example out of the case I DON'T think probation would have been in the cards prior record or no. So I say she got a sweet heart deal.

This leads me to a problem I had with the movie (which I did like) but felt it had its share of flaws storytelling wise. And that is how it kind of seemed to fault Ann when it came to the plea and that struck me as unfair and inaccurate. Now I don't know if the movie ever established whether the case was handled in juvenile or adult court (or maybe it's not relevant I'm not a legal expert) but if the case was in adult court (as I expect) then it would seem to me that the decision to accept or reject the D.A.'s offer ultimately falls on Grace. Because she was the one being charged and facing trial not her mother. And the job of GRACE'S attorney would have been to protect GRACE's rights and look out for HER best interest in the courtroom not those of her mother. Now unless the movie took place in some alternate reality where Ann had the power to stand up in court and say "My daughter pleads guilty, your Honor," or sign her name on the plea agreement in lieu of Grace's or sign her daughter's name for her, Ann didn't accept the plea deal, Grace did. Realistically the only the Ann had the power to do was say "Grace, I think you should take the deal."

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[–] AtheistRevolution 11 years ago

Driving drunk isn't an accident. People that do drive drunk should get automatic 20 years in jail.

Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful.

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[–] WileyDairyGnome 11 years ago

I just mean in terms of her friend's mom not forgiving her. I've known my best friend since we were 6 and her mom probably would be pissed at me but...the slap was a bit dramatic. Also, the girl felt pressured to drink and...I honestly do feel as if it's an accident. Although I can't imagine being that drunk that I would ever think to drive. Anyway, that doesn't mean that I think she should have been cut some slack. I totally do not. 2 years is not a lot of time, so the plea bargain was good. She could have and should have got 15+ years.

-- I am a traveler of both time and space, to be where I have been

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[–] aryzap 8 years ago

Lol what an idiotic comment. If you killed your best friend her mom would probably be pissed at you? Really dumbass?

God the morons here are hard to handle.

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[–] NickiDrea 11 years ago

Sorry guys, but her deal was bad. At least it would have been where I live. my state the maximum sentence on this crime (homicide by DUI) would be 10 years' imprisonment. For an offense of that gravity scale, someone who has a prior record score of a zero could easily get house arrest or lengthy probation as a deal.

A good deal would have been a plea to involuntary manslaughter (which is a misdemeanor by the way!) with a lot probation or a county sentence. That is actually a plea I have seen a few times in cases similar to this one.

And the turning oneself in directly to the prison does NOT happen (at least not where I live, I live in a big city so maybe it's different in the suburbs).

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[–] troypasquale-1 11 years ago

I think what you're missing is that while Grace COULD have gotten probation that doesn't automatically mean that WOULD get that kind kind of deal. I think a lot depends on things like jurisdiction and the D.A. prosecuting the case. And the police Sgt flat out said the D.A. was using the case to make a statement. If I'm an D.A. and I'm out make a statement on a D.U.I case I'm NOT going to offer probation or no jail time. That doesn't mean that her deal was good per se (the Sgt. also said it was a "lousy deal") but it sounds like it was the best she was going to get.

As far as the turning in oneself into prison is concerned I have heard of that happening in celebrity cases like Martha Stewart and the rapper Little Kim. But those cases were in federal court. I haven't heard of that happening in state courts but I'm guessing it would depend on the state if it is actually allowed.

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[–] NickiDrea 11 years ago

I'm not saying it's automatic. That's obviously what a lawyer is for. My only point is, her deal was crap. Over the past several years, I have worked out literally dozens of pleas for my clients, this was a bad deal. No matter who the DA was, whether she had a PD or a private defense attorney and no matter what state it was. Looks like they pled her to the death by DUI. That in itself was a crap offer. Now I realize I may have a different perspective on the sentence than most but I still think she got screwed.

As far as going straight to the prison to begin a sentence, it doesn't really work that way , celebrity or not. You can get a turn-in date, but you generally turn yourself into the courtroom. From there the sheriff transports you to the facility. You don't go directly to the prison yourself. Safety reasons. Again that's where I practice, but since it's one of the biggest cities in the US I would assume other big cities wold have similar rules. I couldn't really tell where this took place though.

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[–] troypasquale-1 11 years ago

Well as I said the police Sgt even said it was a "lousy deal" but he also said "there was more then enough evidence at the scene to ensure a conviction" two years doesn't seem so bad all things considered, but I can understand why an someone who is an attorney (which I am not) would call it B.S.

As far as the cases I cited maybe I'm mistaken and the people I mentioned could have turned themselves into a courtroom or whatever and I just misunderstood. The "going directly to prison" thing was a bit much for me to buy. I think whatever one might think of the movie quality wise one thing we can all agree on is that it will never be mistaken for an episode of "Law & Order." LOL

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[–] WileyDairyGnome 11 years ago

If I killed my best friend driving drunk...I'd demand they send me to prison. What the hell, house arrest? What a joke.

-- I am a traveler of both time and space, to be where I have been

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[–] NickiDrea 11 years ago

You'd be surprised the kind of sentences that people are able to work out. Two weeks ago I pled out a case where the only reason the complainant didn't die was because someone walked in on my client trying to kill her. This woman would have died without a doubt without the intervention. Statutory max for everything she was charge with was something like 160 years. She got 8 years. And that's because her record was horrible.

That's not even unique, that's typical. And that's for intentionally almost killing someone. An accidental death can easily plead out for a very short term of incarceration.

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[–] WileyDairyGnome 11 years ago

That's nuts. I sometimes hear that they go easy on teenagers because they "have their whole life ahead of them" and while that is true...they ended another person's life. I just can't imagine agreeing to house arrest if I did something like that. I'd probably go insane with guilt and they'd have to put me in an institution.

-- I am a traveler of both time and space, to be where I have been

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[–] Ryannkendall 12 years ago

Can someone please tell me what happened in the end. I Watched all the way through it and then my boyfriend came home and changed the channel to freakin football!!

Did she do it? Did she remember?

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[–] jlfratilla 12 years ago

She did do it, and she did remember. In the end her mom was driving her to prison.

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[–] BrownEyedGirl523 12 years ago

I have a question - why was Grace so mad at her? Was it Jen that was actually making out with Jackson? I feel like they showed that for a split second but it was dark and all the guys looked alike haha. Or was Grace just mad that Jen left her and Grace almost had sex with that guy? Confusing.

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[–] jstarchurch 12 years ago

I was wondering about this as well (whether or not Jen was really making out with Jackson as shown in the "correct" recovery of memory toward the end. It was just a weird flash in an otherwise, cohesive and easy to understand scene of events).

As to why she was mad- I think she was upset with Jen for ignoring her urgent need to leave the party. She had never drank before, and let the peer pressure, and Jackson's blowing her off (for his psycho-bitch ex) get to her enough to lose her resolve, and drink. Since it was her first time drinking she wasn't aware of the physical cues your body starts to give you when you've had too much. So there she was, drunk as a skunk, when she hears Pete and Jackson talking about how they had been feeding her booze and using Jackson to distract her, so Pete could hook up with Jen, and then to top it off, douchebag Jackson says he has better options now, and douchebag Pete says, it's not like she's going to remember anything anyway. Her intoxication plus her hearing that conversation plus sense of protectiveness of Jen, made her so eager to leave that party, and when she begged and pleaded to go home, Jen blew her off and told her she was the patron saint of Fun suck. Shortly after that she almost gets raped by some random guy at the party (and it absolutely would have been rape if those girls hadn't interrupted, she was way to drunk to consent, and she was still saying NO). I can understand why she was angry, and I think if she did in fact see Jen making out with Jackson, it was just the cherry on top, but nowhere near her true reason for feeling angry and betrayed.

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[–] lakealice 12 years ago

I thought the ghost friend was extremely annoying--the acting was forced, as she tried to be a screwball comedy type of ghost, but was completely unfunny.

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[–] deppsgirl18 12 years ago

I usually love Lifetime movies like this, but it was so stupid. Like she "almost" got raped amd she "almost" wasnt guilty, it just kept leading to things that never happened, and I was pissed that she didnt punch the mother or the other chick that hit her, I dont care what you did, you dont let someone put their hands on you.

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[–] lilkunta3 11 years ago

and I was pissed that she didnt punch the mother or the other chick that hit her, I dont care what you did, you dont let someone put their hands on you.

deppsgirl,
grace killed jen. yet you think grace should have punched jen's mother for smacking her? come on! put yourself in jen's mother's shoes.

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[–] troypasquale-1 11 years ago

I understood why Jen's mother slapped Grace. Grace chose the wrong time and the wrong person to go off on. I can understand Grace's frustration but there's a time and place for everything and that wasn't the time or place. Again I'm not saying Jen's mother was right to slap her but I understand why she did.

I'm assuming you're joking about Grace punching Brooke's mother because what did the mother do?

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[–] lilkunta3 11 years ago

troy, i agree grace shouldnt have went off on jen's mom, and certainly not at jen's grave.

I'm assuming you're joking about Grace punching Brooke's mother because what did the mother do?
I didnt say anything about Brooke. I said this

deppsgirl,
grace killed jen. yet you think grace should have punched jen's mother for smacking her? come on! put yourself in jen's mother's shoes.

IndiaArieTESTIMONY VOL 2:LOVE&POLITICS

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[–] troypasquale-1 11 years ago

Sorry I misread the post (it was late) for some reason I thought that deppsgirl had responded to you and I in turn thought I was responding to that imagined post. I don't know if that makes sense LOL. In other words I replied to wrong person. Sorry about that. LOL *bluehes*

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[–] aryzap 8 years ago

Um. She killed her daughter. You're disgusting.

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