Is it worth a watch?
The reviews seem to be over-hyping the film if you compare them with the low rating.
shareHonestly? No way.
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Honestly? Hell yeah it's great.
shareI personally didn't care for it and turned it off halfway through, even though I'd paid for it. The whole movie seemed to be shot like the trailer (weird music, quick "shaky" shots, loud noises). I've seen worse, for sure, but I just wasn't in the mood to remain patient after watching an inexplicable six minute, dialogue free dance scene (that looked and sounded like the intro to a softcore porn). Too bad, the story itself is pretty cool.
Obviously, other people on here enjoyed it, so you'll probably want to form your own opinion:)
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Nice description.
Thank you for your input.
My pleasure:) I have to admit, I enjoyed the trailer more than the movie. These things happen. For a similarly paced film, try The Last Testament of Rosalind Leigh (I think I got the name right). Very slow and creepy! And it has a good pay-off.
Cheers:)
I liked it. It isn't a perfect film by any means, as it has some beginner's flaws. It's also a little slow in its pace, since its scares are built more on the whole "slow atmospheric" thing than anything else.
It's major flaw, for me, were two scenes that involved the character Eve dancing. Without spoiling much, the basic issue with them is that they were long. They're in the film as a way of showing how bucolic and creepy the house can be (each dance is separately sweet or creepy), but they're about 4-6 minutes long and they really should have only been about 1-2 minutes max. By the time they're done the film has lost a lot of its speed and rather than set the appropriate mood, they're more annoying when you consider that the film as a whole is already a little on the slow side. They don't need help being more slow.
Other than that the film could have used a little more tightening here and there, but overall I thought that it was amazing when you figure that this is the director's first real film, the only one that ever really saw release. I see some other films in his profile but to my knowledge this is the first film of his that has actually seen any sort of release.
The director has written all the ridiculously positive reviews here (even the slightly less positive, to make it seem more real) and given it a rating of 10 to hide the factual rating, which would probably fall somewhere below 4. No one else would be likely to give this movie a 10. He will also have reviews and comments deleted for being slanderous, when they are just honest opinions. This movie is bad at best, and the director takes anything that is not positive 100 % personally.
In a normal situation, I would have given this movie a 2 star rating and gotten on with my life, but the egomaniac behind this movie, tricking potential viewers to protect his "brainchild" and his "career"... It is just very aggravating and sad. He made a massive amount of IMDb accounts to write long and pretentious reviews likening his movie to a certain era or genre, when we can all see for ourselves how bloated and empty those words are compared to the work in question. It is not an issue of not understanding its genre or inspirations. It's called being delusional, and he really needs to stop. It has left a really bad taste in my mouth for both this movie and the director. Is that really how any movie is supposed to make you feel?
Some people like this movie more than others, but the general consensus is that this is a bad movie. I agree. Stay away.
Wow, I'm really intrigued by what you're saying. How do you know this? Do you know the director personally? I'd love to know more please. I decided not to watch the movie, since I have 300 titles on my watchlist that are probably more deserving.
shareWay to go making up a pile of completely unsubstantiated and random accusations Plecoj.
Just because you do not like a film does not mean that there is an organised conspiracy to pretend that others did.
Lord of Tears is a divisive film. It is based on a very British style of vintage filmmaking (akin to the 50s/60s) which can appear slightly theatrical in its Gothic Romance styling to those unfamiliar with that type of filmmaking. So in other words it's a kinda arty throwback kinda film that you would know in an instant that some would love and others would hate.
Of course your entitled to hate the film plecoj and they're are parts even I hate and I directed the thing. But there is no falsehood in the fact that others express a different opinion to your own. However, your personal accusations are perturbing and merit a response.
None of which should be necessary if you consider the absurdity of your accusations versus the facts.
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The director has written all the ridiculously positive reviews here
You say this without any substantiation. But let's pretend I did, in which case I created user accounts praising the film BEFORE it was even made. But what about the critics, our imdb page shows 50 external reviews of which about 45 are very positive. Perhaps I wrote those myself too, since I have secret pen names within Bloody Disgusting, Dread Central, Fearnet and the 42 others. Plus I must have assumed plastic surgery to publish some of the video reviews on youtube also praising the film... from countries around the world.
Oh and of course I must have also set up 12 of my own international film festivals that accepted our film on it's own merit and then produced our own awards which included an Audience award too...
I probably also set up 17k fake facebook and youtube accounts just to give our social media an impressive looking number of subs...
Yeah...
2) User Ratings.
I'm failing to see the conspiracy here. The ratings here are really well spread. Our film came about originally on a Kickstarter with 300 backers, and of those they were the most aware of the type of film to expect and the most predisposed towards enjoying it thus many produced a 10 rating. Doesn't make their vote count any less.
If the film was a total disaster I'd expect the 1 votes to at least outnumber the 6s... 7s.... 8's by a margin of x2 or x3.
Most of all, if I was paying good money for user ratings I'd expect a much higher average than 5.4 haha.
Do you not see how ludicrous your accusation sounds?
181 22.1% 10
50 6.1% 9
64 7.8% 8
79 9.7% 7
95 11.6% 6
70 8.6% 5
80 9.8% 4
72 8.8% 3
41 5.0% 2
86 10.5%
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but the general consensus is that this is a bad movie.
Unsubstantiated. 45 of 50 published reviews praised the film. Fans divided fairly evenly. Received multiple festival acceptances and some rewards. This is my opinion.
So to conclude
From your strangely personal tone I can tell that basically you have a very mean spirited chip on your shoulder. I can't imagine as you wrote all that nonsense that you weren't consumed with a negatively that I can assure you is something best left behind.
Quite honestly... at the end of the day, manipulation of imdb is something that does go on but it is a pointless exercise for any film maker to attempt this and would never be utilised to produce a result as modest and mediocre as a 5.4 rating.
Now plecoj I talk to all our films fans and that doesn't exclude it's detractors, if you ever want to reach out personally and see that in fact I'm not a total dick (as clearly you have a personal motivation in believing so then I'd be happy to say hi on facebook.
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No offence as it was your first film, but Lord of Tears is a terrible terrible film and that's not because i am not "used to the style" it's because it is very plainly not a good film, it's poorly acted, again not a personal attack on those people, the performances just weren't good.
The only positive thing i can say about the film is that the cover looked interesting.
I give every film i watch a chance and try and look at the positives but there really weren't many here, i liked one shot out of everything i saw, the fact that you had music running through every single scene wasn't an intelligent stylistic choice, it felt pretentious and ultimately stopped me from being able to be pulled into the scenes i was watching.
I think you had an interesting concept for a film but it was just poorly executed and it very much felt like i was watching people recite their lines rather than watching characters, again i understand that this is your first film so i don't mean to be discouraging i'm just being honest.
I'm sure you've got a good film in you but this just wasn't it in my opinion, there may be a particular niche audience that enjoys it but i feel it would be in the extreme minority as I personally really like some art house horror films and i feel this is what you were going for but for me and a lot of other people clearly we didn't think it even worked well within that genre...or any other really.
I get why you'd respond so personally to negative comments on something you've made, but honestly don't take it personally we're talking about the finished product as a whole and not just your part in it.
Just came here to say that its wonderful to hear this from the director, and shows just how silly some of the threads on forums. Always good to see creator/fan interaction at this level even if it is, in this case, not necessarily all positive!
shareDamn, you just got schooled by the director hahaha
shareDon't listen to those people. They aren't the type of audience that will appreciate this film . I loved the movie and know many others who also do. I've already put in pre orders for Lord of tears and unkindness of ravens. Keep up the good work.
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I'd agree with what others have mentioned - there are pacing problems with the film - the dance sequence is too long for example, but overall it's an interesting ghost story that has you questioning what is reality and what is imagined.
Definitely worth a watch, and I understand the director has been working on a new edit that hopefully will fix some of the issues.