Why he cheated


Jules was clearly too busy to be properly involved in her marriage. The startup was taking all of her time. It's no secret that people in a marriage who are ignored can stray. It happens all the time, so why are so many here attaching some masculinity grab to this? I thought Matt was pathetic, but all I see is someone who is craving some attention and looked elsewhere to find it.

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He's too big of a pu$$y to talk to his wife about it instead. Cheating is never the answer. Address your concerns with your spouse and/or get out.

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Exactly. Just because you're lonely doesn't give you an excuse to cheat. What the hell? Life gets hard sometimes, it doesn't give you a reason to be so extremely selfish. Infidelity is only committed by selfish cowards.

I get what the OP was saying though....the masculine spin wasnt needed. It was stereotypical stay at home parent gets lonely and has loose moral fibers and decides to cheat.

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You missed the OP's point, yet ironically furthered it.

He's highlighting the hypocrisy of society always blaming the man/husband/father in these situations using masculinity.

According to society, when a stay-at-home mother cheats, it's the fathers fault for never being around enough. And when a stay-at-home father cheats, it's still the father's fault for not being manly enough, not the mothers fault for not being around enough. In actuality they both cheat for similar reasons.

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According to society, when a stay-at-home mother cheats, it's the fathers fault for never being around enough. And when a stay-at-home father cheats, it's still the father's fault for not being manly enough, not the mothers fault for not being around enough.


Not according to the society I live in. I'm not sure which one you live in.

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Sure, we'll just pretend the hundreds of movies based around the old adage plot of, the working too hard father who never has time for his kids and/or wife/girlfriend and must give it all up to love his family, do not exist.

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According to society, when a stay-at-home mother cheats, it's the fathers fault for never being around enough.
It's one of the most common tropes in movies, anyway. The bad man who was "never around" for his wife/son/daughter because he put "his career" before his family. Vs The bad man who cheated because he couldn't handle his wife's success.

I choose to believe what I was programmed to believe

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Yes, I am not disagreeing there.

I'm just highlighting when it's the man's fault, masculinity and manlihood is the central theme people make.

Man or woman, they cheat for exactly the same reasons in the same situation.

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I think this answer nails it.

He had a problem with his partner and did not work it out with her.

The breakdown in marriage intimacy was both of theirs fault, it always is.

He made it worse by cheating.

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He was right to cheat. She had totally emasculated him, and got her just desserts.

She wanted to have everything and everyone cowering to her 'career'. Life doesn't work that way.

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BS

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Oh ffs. He's "emasculated" because she has a rewarding job? Get out of here with that nonsense.


Pobre de Dios que no sale en revistas, que no es modelo ni artista, o de familia real...

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don't agree with what he did at all, but the double standard is ridiculous....

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He's "emasculated" because she has a rewarding job? Get out of here with that nonsense.


Yeah I fail to see the logic in that.

The one thing I liked about the movie was DeNiro's stance that Jules spending more time at home wasn't going to stop her husband from cheating. He may have fewer opportunities to cheat, but where there's a libido + selfishness, there's a way.

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Life doesn't work that way? It works that way for men every day. Plenty of men have demanding careers with a wife at home raising their kids. Why is it wrong for a woman but okay for a man?

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it's not ok for either gender to cheat. it's immaturity at its worst. i wasn't very satisfied with such a rosy conclusion between Jules and her husband. i think it would have been more encouraging if she decided to ditch him and run the company herself.

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I agree, I'm so sad she apparently decided to stay with him?!

And him being a SAHD and cheating was gross and cliche.

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not the right move. dude should get back to work and hire a nanny.

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not the right move. dude should get back to work and hire a nanny.


no there's the answer. obviously they are not hurting for money. dude needed something else to occupy his time.












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He was right to cheat. She had totally emasculated him, and got her just desserts.

She wanted to have everything and everyone cowering to her 'career'. Life doesn't work that way.


Bullsh!t. None of this justified his cheating at all. He was her husband. He had plenty of opportunity to sit down with her and discuss the issues he thought were weighing their marriage down.

Despite her being so busy with work and her hectic schedule, she still loved him and surely she would've made an effort to fix/improve/change things had he communicated to her, like married couple SHOULD DO.



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I have a few thoughts:

First, typically movies portray cheating where the cheater gets caught, and only then, shows remorse. It was kind of a breath of fresh air for the husband to come clean before his affair was exposed, because he truly felt awful for betraying his wife and because he doesn't want her to give up control of her company.

Second, let me preface this by saying I have not ever cheated, nor been cheated on. So I have no personal experience. And I have always said that cheating was a deal breaker for me. BUT, now being so invested in my marriage and family with two children, I now think that, depending on the circumstances, I wouldn't necessarily say that I'd 100% be out the door if my husband cheated. If it happened like in the movie, I would probably try to stay and make it work. Because he confessed (without knowing his wife already knew), showed genuine remorse, and ended the affair, I can see why Jules decided to stay with him. Especially when a child is involved. I would have a condition though: marriage counseling to work on communication and building trust back and then solo counseling so he could work on whatever led him to stray.

Thirdly, I don't see or have any knowledge of people giving women a pass for cheating. If anything, I've heard cheating men be given excuses, like "men aren't made to be monogamous" or "boys will be boys" or "men are weak when it comes to temptation". But if a woman cheats, she's a "whore" or "slut", according to those same people. So a double standard does exist but not in the way you're saying. How many times has a man cheated but instead of going after him, the one who broke his vows and disrespected his wife and family, the scorned wife goes after the "homewrecker"?? The other woman didn't wreck anything. The husband did by deciding to cheat. She doesn't owe the family anything, he is the one who promised to be faithful. If she knew about his wife, then she should have stayed away, but ultimately, the fault lies with the husband for cheating, and therefore any anger should be directed at him.

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Jesse James is about as manly as they come, and he cheated. Why? Because his wife was gone 90% of the time making movies.


We got a job.
What kind?
...The Forever Kind.

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No. He cheated because he's a douche bag.

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Jesse James is about as manly as they come, and he cheated. Why? Because his wife was gone 90% of the time making movies.


James cheated because he is a low-life, *beep* he actually fcked women in his office @ the shop where everyone knew what he was doing.












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I have left a girl over a similar situation as these two (Ive seen what cheating does in these situations growing up so even at my weakest that wasn't an option but I understand the impulse as I had a few moments of temptation during) . Its not about the loneliness its priorities. Some people treat their relationship like its something to do when the important stuff isn't happening. Its not the busyness its the lack of effort on the persons part to keep a connection. There's an old saying that goes "if they care enough about you they will find time for you no matter how small". As a person that *beep* can tear your self esteem apart. You start to build it up in your mind that "they are already moving themself out the door, I guess I should start doing the same". That's how cheating happens. Of course the biggest problems in these situations is no one talks about it. But that also leads to another fear, the fear of making the unknown known. Bringing it up might put your relationship in the fast lane to going out the door and maybe your not ready for that just yet so you start preparing yourself for the breakup long before it actually happens. No one that's experienced true heartbreak wants to go through that so quick so if we can we will start to emotional kill our connection to the person so that when they leave the loss wont hit us so hard (finding someone else to invest in is generally one of the options). A lot of times its premature.

You see its not so much about cheating but mind games people play on eachother. One thing Ive noticed is that the more emotionally fragile the person is the more likely they are to do stuff like the husband. Of course some people just don't give a *beep* and want to *beep* something.

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Jesse may have been a douche bag, but Sandra was a first class bit ch. Not a winning combination.


We got a job.
What kind?
...The Forever Kind.

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that end of the storyline had me sick. I lived it, although neither of us were stay-at-home.



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From personal experience, a couple I know, the husband had to go on long business trips, staying out of state with a group of people. 8 years ago he became physically involved with a woman in his working group, over the course of a few months when they were working closely together. This intimate connection continued long distance when he got home, with plans for getting together in the future.
When the wife finally figured out what was going on she confronted him. After a few denials he admitted to everything and was very sorry, assured her it wouldn't happen again, and begged to stay together, he would make the changes needed to make sure he wouldn't repeat this. She at first demanded he move out, to go to another house they owned, but after a few days of angry scenes, she decided to give it another chance instead of separating.
He came through on his promises. It took a couple of years for her to stop feeling really emotional about it, but they have actually had a much better and deeper relationship since then. He learned a lesson and is very much more committed to the marriage than before, and has actually gotten rid of the insecurities that caused him to seek out the cheating relationship in the first place. Prayer on the part of both people made a big difference, too, they felt.
I thought of their example when Anne Hathaway's husband made his speech to her, and I was glad she gave it another chance.
HOWEVER, repeated infidelity would be another thing. Some people learn an important lesson, make changes, and go on to a better, stronger marriage. Other people don't and keep repeating the same behavior.

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The fact that his wife was "too busy" does not justify his cheating. If he didn't feel as if he and his wife were getting the proper amount of time together, then he could/should have confronted her about it. He's her husband. It shouldn't be a hard thing to do.

Hope changes everything.

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OT but that husband was cringy af

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