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De Niro Plays the Magical Negro...


Dispensing life advice and solving problems.

He earns a standing ovation for... clearing off a desk (hey, it's not gonna clear itself).

A guy's having woman trouble, so what should he do? De Niro suggests, "Try talking to her."

A grown man's flummoxed: he has to deliver a package and may or may not cross paths with Beyonce or Jay-Z. What should he wear? (A shirt with buttons.)

In other words, De Niro's surrounded by retards.

Early on in this wannabe feminist movie, Jules needs to take a look at the homepage, which features "The Five" -- one article of clothing on five broads with different body types. One problem: All of the models are, ahem, model thin.

I guess the movie was OK. Gooey pablum.

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I kind of enjoyed the movie as well. I was searching for a phrase to describe it and gooey pablum is perfect! Take a bow, wordsmith!


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De Niro is a Negro? Huh, I didn't know that. Oh wait, you were making a larger point, which just goes to show that the "Magical Negro" concept is on shaky ground. That type of character has been present in stories since the beginning of time and has nothing to do with race, unless you want to make it that. Don't worry, Spike Lee didn't seem to understand that either.


"Dave, this conversation can serve no purpose anymore. Goodbye." 2001: A Space Odyssey

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That type of character has been present in stories since the beginning of time and has nothing to do with race, unless you want to make it that. Don't worry, Spike Lee didn't seem to understand that either.


This is one of the more inept comments I've seen in recent weeks. Given the competition on these forums, congratulations. Apparently your point is that this character trope has nothing to do with race, which is sorta kinda exactly why I had few reservations about applying it to De Niro. So, no, I do not share "that" in common with Lee. Quite the opposite.

Anyway, this has almost been a barely-interesting tangent, but adds nothing to the discussion, so I'd guess this is one way of working through your own issues with a pet peeve. Good luck!

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What a maroon! You're the one who referred to De Niro as a "Magical Negro".

which is sorta kinda exactly

Keep working on your English, I'm sure it will come along in due time. LOL!

Discussion? What's there to discuss? Your OP was nothing more than a tangent. I'd wish you good luck but you are going to need much more than luck.



"Dave, this conversation can serve no purpose anymore. Goodbye." 2001: A Space Odyssey

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What a maroon! You're the one who referred to De Niro as a "Magical Negro".


I guess this counts as some kind of argument in your world.

Keep working on your English, I'm sure it will come along in due time. LOL!


I love it when people are reduced to these distractions. Taking issue with this expression would be like objecting to "maroon" or the lazy (and inaccurate) comment earlier about a trope used "since the beginning of time."

Arguing with you is like playing chess against a pigeon. You're just going to sh!t all over the board and then strut around like you won.

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Doc did have a good point. There really isn't much to your post.

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I'm not going to take sides in this dispute, but I needed to say that this: 'Arguing with you is like playing chess against a pigeon. You're just going to sh!t all over the board and then strut around like you won.' is very likely going to be the funniest thing I read today.




Alas! The next word is ‘pigs’ bristles’. We are undone, my good Watson!

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First off, Doc, I agree with you completely.

Second of all, I love that you used the word "maroon"! I thought I was the only one. Bugs rules!




I want the doctor to take your picture so I can look at you from inside as well.

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You lost with your opening post. Obviously another fourteen year old keyboard warrior. Fancy yourself a film critic too? Don't bother answering or have the last word, I don't care. I'll leave it to somebody who cares why you think De Niro fits your bill.

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Yeah, a fourteen year-old who's had an IMDb account for 13 years...

Also, you probably should not approach these types of discussions from a frame of "winning" and "losing." It's just small-minded.

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Except for DeNiro not being black, his character does fit the "Magical Negro" trope. Just shows up one day, and exists to help the main character: provides insight, gets that person out of trouble. Their own issues are not part of the plot, and the character does not grow or develop. Because they are a plot device for the person who really matters in the film, in this case Jules.

You must be the change you seek in the world. -- Gandhi

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i totally agree w doc as well. op's critique of doc's comment was useless.
his comment was "inept" etc etc but can offer no reason as to why.
very lame attempt at insulting doc, op.

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De Niro Plays the Magical Negro...

I swear. I came here to write exactly that !

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I swear. I came here to write exactly that !



LOL! I guess Morgan Freeman was too busy (or too smart) to take this cliched role, so they offered it to DeNiro ? Gooey pablum, indeed.


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Funny, I had freeman in mind when watching the film

"It doesnt matter what Bram Stoker has told you... dead people don't come back from their graves"

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I think there's something interesting to this observation. I think De Niro's character operates to serve a few purposes. His role, to dumb it down as much as possible, is to create laughs for people in his age group who can sympathize with the world passing them by (jokes about Facebook, et. al, ensue). There are also "counter attacks," which come in the form of advice, like, "Why don't you just talk to her?" The reason this is funny is because of its obviousness-- the "kids" have their heads so far up tech's a**hole they can't see the forest for the trees.

But I believe the movie also serves to connect the younger generation to the old-- and this is where I think this film becomes both a better movie than most in its genre, and also sputters a little too. It's also where this post's original metaphor stings the most.

Anne Hathaway's character does a good job of realizing that 'hey, old people can be helpful and valuable too.' While she navigated this well and the writing does its best to avoid big pot holes, there are still a few scenes where I thought De Niro's character was walked on a little too much (while forced to keep a smile on his face).

It makes you wonder how this movie would screen in Japan, where there exists a much stronger respect for elders. I think that that audience would be much quicker to identify with the OP's sentiment- and rightfully so. But, as a movie made for America, in these times, I think it did a pretty good job of presenting things (even if some of those dynamics are truly sad, or appear completely unfair).




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For a moment I really thought he would turn out to be an angel. When he disappeared at the end I was like, 'his work is done; he's gone back to heaven'.

"What race are you? If you don't tell me I'll just...assume the worst."

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That would be a fitting cliché...



"It doesnt matter what Bram Stoker has told you... dead people don't come back from their graves"

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