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Girls arent that great either in this generation...


As a man looking for a wife I can tell you girls are far from blameless. Im not talking about emasculating men. I guess its the whole generation regardless of gender. No one talks anymore. Its hard to be up front with anyone. Everyone is playing games, no one wants to get to know each other anymore either. if you dont fit that exact mold on the first date then you are done.It gets kind of frustrating. And as i right this I am thinking of girls explaining problems to me so I realize it really isnt one gender or another its everyone.

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How is this relevant to the movie?

"What race are you? If you don't tell me I'll just...assume the worst."

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I assume he's referring to her commentary in the bar scene on how women have evolved so much in the 21 century while men haven't.

For that to be accurate, you'd have to overlook a lot of things, including the good things that came from men in the millennial generation, including the boom in technology (the entire backdrop of the film, yet the writer/director missed it anyway).

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The writer/director didn't miss anything. Hathaway's character was saying all that because she just found out her husband cheated, and she was drunk and hurt.

"What race are you? If you don't tell me I'll just...assume the worst."

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It fit the events of the film, so at least it wasn't random, but the constant theme of the movie was how De Niro was a relic of a bygone era (as symbolized through the suit case), and Nancy Meyers is from his generation, so I couldn't help but think this was one of those moments when the director's true feelings bled into the script.

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I feel like I watched a different movie from you. Ben's briefcase is admired, not dismissed as a relic. One of the guy employees actually buys his own. And all the other young'uns look to him for advice about marriage and dating and work-life balance...

If anything, the theme of this movie is young people should try to learn more from old folks. Especially when they're like Ben, who was basically a Hallmark birthday card come to life.

"What race are you? If you don't tell me I'll just...assume the worst."

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Relic was probably too strong as I didn't mean it to sound like it was a negative. He was clearly admired as a classic just as it was by the time the credits rolled.

The over arching theme just felt like it was the new generation isn't as good as the old one, especially once it was stated in that scene.

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The boom in technology started long before the millennial generation. In fact, it started even before the baby boom generation became adults, though we took it and ran with it. So please don't act as if technology suddenly came alive when the oldest millennials became young adults around the turn of the century.

Unfortunately, women did and do get treated as if they can't possibly run a technology company or innovate or design hardware and software. Of course we can, but the VCs and other investors were and often still are very male-focused when it comes to funding companies. Certainly many good things have come from men in all generations, but that's partly at the expense of leaving women out.

Men are wonderful; so are women. But what really resonates is the seeming inability of younger generations to really communicate, face to face and in the moment. It's kind of like what I see with selfies. People are so invested in capturing themselves every other minute that they often miss the actual experiences. I roll my eyes at the whole posting of the "outfit of the day" or "here's a picture of my breakfast today." Just how much more self involved can someone be if he or she thinks that is great communication.

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The point is that the tech boom continued and it didn't die out. That doesn't happen automatically, it takes smart people employ and to pass the torch to.

And it's not like anyone's "leaving women out" it's just the simple fact that in most cases in technology, the interest usually isn't there, and as a result, most computer science majors are male dominated which leads to people making assumptions of who "can" and who "can't".

The only thing that will change that is more women talking an interest to it.

As far as the rest of it, it's just a generational thing. I'm sure the Traditionalists generation didn't like what Baby Boomers did socially either.

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You do need to preface that with "In America" because what you describe happens mostly in the US only. It has something to do with hyper capitalism.

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Nah, he's right, I come from a "third-world" country and what he says is spot-on. It has a lot to do with Internet, Facebook and the 'availability' of people that turned sex and even love as a form of consumerism.

In a way, men try to get the girls (and even break up with them) the easy way and girls have the power because they know they can have whoever they have. It's like liberalism that invaded the private spheres, and gender roles have been totally reversed.

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I wholeheartedly agree with the OP and women in this generation (women ages 18-35 right now).

God help you if you're on a date with a woman who is between 27-30 and has married/pregnant/parent friends.

She wants to know before you get the check WHERE IS THIS GOING and WHEN ARE WE GETTING MARRIED etc.

I could write pages and pages about this but I'm sure others have similar experiences.

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Speaking of the check, isn't it funny that they want equality and feminism and whatnot... and yet they're perfectly happy to let you pay for dinner?

Some of them even try to justify it by saying "well because of the pay-gap, women only make 77 cents on the dollar..."

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News to the world: it has always been that way and always will.

Everybody thinks their generation invented everything. Or were the ones who screwed it up. No. People haven't done anything truly new since before we were monkeys. Seriously, go watch them at the zoo sometime and see if you don't spot the same game-playing nonsense.

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OP: It's definitely a shallow and inferior time compared to the previous century. People are just too self-centered and soulless to have even the slightest lengthy interaction with them that would turn out good. Thank God for the internet as we can enrich our lives with it and not have to deal with people.

After all... tomorrow is another day.

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