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How is she allowed to shoot such preparatrions?


Never mind I found the movie lukewarm, a little dull and melodramatic (both my parents are journalists, so I know a bit about war reporting), or that I found Waldau much too young for the role, he looks like a trophy husband...

How does she convince the people in the photographs to allow her to photograph such things. That's the part they fail to explain?

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I found it unbelievable that any Western photojournalist, let alone a woman who are treated like second class citizens in Afghanistan, would be allowed to photograph preparations for a suicide bombing.


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Well firstly, did Erik Poppe photograph a suicide bomber being prepared and the setting off of the bomb in Afghanistan, a country not included in your list. As he is a Westerner I very much doubt that. Secondly, the character is a woman, who are treated like second class citizens. So the idea that the journalist is a Western woman is pure fiction.


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Since when was the film an autobiography, and Afghanistan is missing from the places he filmed at. Yes I am doubting he worked in Afghanistan and filmed suicide bombings, considering the antipathy towards the West. During the 80s and 90s Bin Laden wasn't considered to be the threat he later became and he wasn't filmed planning terrorist attacks. He was filmed after 9/11? Really?? The US security services would have loved to have known that, considering they spent years just trying to find him. Also Erik Poppe was a photo journalist during the 80s.

There are photojournalists filming in war zones as there always have been, but suicide bombings in Kabul, I don't think so. It is interesting you think women the world over are treated like second class citizens, I am sure there are women who would disagree with that. Plus in this case we are talking about an Islamist fundamentalist country where women are treated atrociously.


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http://www.lynseyaddario.com/

https://www.google.ie/search?q=lynsey+Addario+afghanistan&espv=2&a mp;biw=1236&bih=678&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=3 HxOVN-8FOfN7Qb7wIH4Cg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ


Before you make statements about women photographers do some research.

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Yes, thank you for all the pictures showing a suicide bomb being made and detonated!! It does appear she is working along side the army for protection in a war zone as per usual. Do some research before producing links that show nothing as evidence. Btw if they had used the Kenyan refugee camp instead, that would have made it a tad more believable.


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Exactly what are those areas?? Do they include suicide bomb making factories??

There are autobiographical elements, slightly different from the whole film being an autobiography.

What I said was, I don't believe he filmed in Afghanistan AND filmed suicide bombs being made. He didn't.

OBL committed war crimes in the 80s?? One link was from an interview from 1998, three years before 9/11.

He was interviewed on Al Jazeera post 9/11. You seem to forget that the topic is PHOTOJOURNALISM. He wasn't being filmed by western PJ's post 9/11. If they had been, the security services would have loved to have known that, but they weren't. THAT is what I was saying.

Women the world over are treated like second class citizens???

I said I didn't believe EP filmed in Afghanistan and a suicide bombing period. He did film in the 80s.

The idea of a western PJ filming a suicide bomb being made and detonated, which is nonsense, has Everything to do with the film's authenticity. What happened WAS unbelievable, that's the whole point of what I've been saying. The film was fiction after all.

"It's only unbelievable in the sense of incredibility" doesn't make a lick of sense. Fact-a-bility????? The sequence in question didn't affect me at all, I found it laughable.

Btw I originally posted a reply to somebody else who didn't believe that section either.

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Firstly, yet another Imdb poster who doesn't know what the real meaning of troll is. It is quite often used when somebody has run out of relevant things to say.

Secondly, I'm touched that you looked up my posting history, that was so sweet. But isn't also a bit pathetic to do so when you can't win an argument. For example regurgitating stuff from The Rover which has absolutely nothing to to do with the topic at hand.

Thirdly, I don't trash everything I watch, as you would know if, if you had bothered to look properly.

Fourthly, I can say in a few sentences exactly what I mean, whereas you tend to write a novella, and a bad one at that. As I said in the previous post, mental vomit. A condition you really need to address.

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Troll!

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Nobody on Imdb seems to know what troll means, yet they keep using it. If you disagree with someone you get called a troll it's laughable at times. It's a much overused term, like lol.



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You are arrogant and willfully ignorant. You need to shut up and concede defeat.
Beauty is truth, truth beauty.

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Well at least you didn't misuse the word troll. But what on earth are you going on about? Defeat about what? Ignorant about what? What is being a woman have to do with the price of fish? Quite bizarre.



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Part of the film was shot in Afghanistan. The crew entered the country and shot on the streets of Kabul. Juliette Binoche, although she wanted to go, was not permitted by the film assurers to go as her safety could not be guaranteed. Morocco was used as a stand in for Kabul. Understandable really.

Eric Poppe did indeed shoot in Afghanistan and his work can be found online.
Lynsey Addario did shoot in Afghanistan, including shooting women in a way westerners had not been previously permitted to.

During production of the film was when the first female suicide bomber struck in Kabul. That aspect was fiction. The film is a fiction and not a documentary. Poppe felt it was relevant as he thought it was only a matter of time before there were burqa clad suicide bombers. He was correct.

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And you also need to stop talking about what it is and is not like to be a woman unless you are one -- which I seriously doubt. You are too unwilling to listen to be a woman.

Beauty is truth, truth beauty.

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@AlongTheGreatToneRiver what a terrific and thorough post. I enjoyed the movie but found some of it a bit clunky, particularly the whole Africa project.

@benman46 by all means be critical of the film, hate it! You're entitled, but trying to pull it apart on assumed semantics is pointless if you havent researched them.

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