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giving the film a 1/10 to drag the rating down


I liked the film. I didn't think it was great, but I thought the teenagers seemed like real teenagers rather than sloppy imitations of teenagers (and perhaps some of the main actors were actually teenagers, I don't know). I gave it a 7/10. I think those who vote a 1/10 just to pull down the film's IMDB rating are being petty. They seem to think that their opinion is more valuable than everyone else's opinion so they give it a really low rating to drag it down. I think that's really obnoxious.

To anyone who actually gave the film a 1/10, I challenge you to offer a criticism of the film which justifies such a horrible rating. Films that deserve 1/10 are films which are totally incoherent or lack even the basics which should be expected of filmmaking, such as having scenes edited into the wrong place, major continuity errors, lack of co-ordination between the sound track and the film so that characterss mouths don't match what they're saying. Even if you absolutely hated this film, I don't see how anyone could seriously justify giving it less than 4/10.

Giving a film 1/10 just because you want to drag the ratings down is realy obnoxious because it's a sign of your arrogance. By doing that, you're trying to say that your opinion is more valuable than everyone else's opinion so instead of giving the film a low rating which you might actually be able to justify, you lazily decide to give it the lowest rating possible. It's ridiculous.

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i think you're right on your premise, that giving a movie a 1 just to drag it down, is not a very sound practice.
where i differ though is that people should give a movie they hated a 4, just because it was technically ok done. i didn't see this movie yet, but if someone really didn't like it, story, style, actors, everything, why should they give it more than a one?

not that i myself am throwing around extreme ratings; i only got a couple of ones in my 1000+ ratings and haven't even given away my first 10 yet. praised shall be the day when this happens! :)

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Where does it say someone is giving the film a 1/10?

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There are 1/10 trolls?!?! Looks like Matt needs to visit them as well.

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Exactly. That just so happens to be your opinion and others just so happen to have their opinion and give it a 1 or 3 or 7 or (God help them) 10. It is all opinion, and a rating system is no different from words. I suggest you simply think out side the box a little, and try not contradicting your own logic.

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In my opinion it'd be very nice if you shut the *beep* up. :)

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In theory, sure. If they're doing it to troll, giving it an exaggerated rating is silly. But then, maybe someone actually would say this film is worthy of a 1/10. That's their call to make.

In practice, if I'm not mistaken, 1s and 10s are weighted less than other ratings, to account for this inevitability.


"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster."
-Nietzsche

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I vote for myself and so I can pull up my rating in future years and think, "oh, I liked it, maybe I should rewatch it" or otherwise. I tend to decide my vote before I log in to IMDb and will often find I'm voting right around the average, +/- 1 star, except for the occasional film that we all see that speaks to us—which gets the super high ratings.

I really don't care if 800 people've rated a movie 1/10. Good for them for wasting their own time, unless they honestly believe in that 1/10, and I've doled out a few myself.

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I liked the film. I didn't think it was great, but I thought the teenagers seemed like real teenagers rather than sloppy imitations of teenagers (and perhaps some of the main actors were actually teenagers, I don't know). I gave it a 7/10.


Based on this comment alone: you think it's a "good" movie based on such a scale (guesstimate):

1 - awful
2 - very bad
3 - bad
4 - below average
5 - average
6 - above average
7 - good
8 - very good
9 - great
10 - excellent


I think those who vote a 1/10 just to pull down the film's IMDB rating are being petty.


Are those the only types (minus the "type" you mention later) that rate films 1/10? My meaning is: you seem to conclude that there are basically two types of people who rate films 1/10: those who are "petty", and those who do it mainly on a technical basis. Are there any other kind?

I have on this website 7,588 ratings; out of that, I have rated 5 films 1/10. 2 of them have pretty low ratings while the other ratings are closer to the 7/10 (two are 6.9/10). So, those three films I rated 1/10 -- was I being petty?

You see my point?

You presume they are being petty because you enjoyed it and they didn't. Many other people enjoyed it, but a few did not.

Do not misunderstand me, there are "trolls" here who go around rating films 1/10. But I've perused many a profile, and this is what I have concluded:

People Who Rate Films 1/10:

1. Trolls (may have or may have not actually seen it)

2. Semi-trolls -- they rate consensused great films 1/10, and rate consensused poor films 10/10.

3. Technical ratings.

4. They genuinely believe it indeed is "awful".

5. They are perfectionists. (If one thing was bad but the rest good it still gets a 1/10 -- no in between)

Those are 5.

They seem to think that their opinion is more valuable than everyone else's opinion so they give it a really low rating to drag it down. I think that's really obnoxious.


In this case: you think your opinion has more weight than theirs, and most likely: anyone else's. However, unless they voice an opinion with their rating then you can't determine they all are being "petty".

To anyone who actually gave the film a 1/10, I challenge you to offer a criticism of the film which justifies such a horrible rating.


You do realize that some of those who give a film 1/10 are quite intelligent. Being a troll, as you seem to imply they are, does not mean they are all uneducated dimwits.

Even if you absolutely hated this film, I don't see how anyone could seriously justify giving it less than 4/10.


Could you see how those who rated it a 10/10 justify such a rating?

Giving a film 1/10 just because you want to drag the ratings down is realy obnoxious because it's a sign of your arrogance.


How do you know that's all of them are doing?

By doing that, you're trying to say that your opinion is more valuable than everyone else's opinion so instead of giving the film a low rating which you might actually be able to justify, you lazily decide to give it the lowest rating possible. It's ridiculous.


And it's equally ridiculous to say such a thing without any evidence to back up such a statement.

2,019 ratings of this film 250 people gave it a 4/10 or below. Those who gave it a 1/10, to you were "petty". What are the people who gave it a 2/10-4/10, I wonder?

-Nam

I'm on the road less traveled...

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In this case: you think your opinion has more weight than theirs, and most likely: anyone else's. However, unless they voice an opinion with their rating then you can't determine they all are being "petty".


This is what I was going to say. The OP comes across as arrogant and narrow minded. Clearly they enjoyed the film, therefore no one can possibly be justified in giving it a low rating.

I gave it a 6 myself but, if someone genuinely felt like it was a 1, who am I to tell them they can't vote it as such? Even if they are "trolling", what difference does it make to ... anything?! Who cares?! You like it, so enjoy it for yourself.

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Actually, to those who consistently rate films 1/10 and/or 10/10 it means absolutely nothing since their votes are not counted toward the total based on the algorithm produced by the website self. Case in point: The Interview with Seth Rogen and James Franco. When North Korea threatened (and hacked) Sony, people here, and others who joined, without even seeing the film, rated the film 10/10. Those who weren't regular voters (or top 1,000 voters) etc., those votes were not counted. You can tell by the averaging of the rating over time. If it wasn't done 5hat way, then the 200,000+ 10/10 would make it the #1 movie on this website and be reflected on the Top 250. It isn't, and their votes are not counted.

The only venue trolls have here are the message boards. Other than here, they have no voice.

-Nam

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Why don't we stop talking crap saying that voting 1 or 10 doesn't count??!


Here, I did the math: http://j.mp/IntrviewScore


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I didn't say they all didn't count, I said the "trolled" ones didn't count. Your math is irrelevant to the algorithm this website has for ratings.

And as an aside, and just my opinion: I think the top 1,000 voters here weigh quite a bit on the averaging of films here.

-Nam

I am on the road less traveled...

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What the frakk do you know about any algorithm imdb use?
The math is irrelevant but magically gives the result given as average.

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They state it on their ratings page. Your math is still irrelevant whether it's right on the mark or not because you do not know the algorithm they use to determine ratings averaged here, what's counted and what isn't.

-Nam

I am on the road less traveled...

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I see...
Now my opinion is that it's crap to discourage people "more interested in changing the current rating of a movie than giving their true opinion of it."
and that's a simple use of raw data.

Edit: and if there is one perfect movie to test what I say, is "the interview", because if the analysis of raw data (that I made) gives the same result than their method with all the filters, etc... in "The Interview", that you know might be the most affected movie by those "more interested in changing the current rating of a movie than giving their true opinion of it" then why they bother.

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I did a little editing in the last message.

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Why do they rate a movie if their rating has no overall effect -- is that what you're asking?

-Nam

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No I'm saying if the "analysis" of the raw data I did...
gives the same result than their elaborate algorithms to "eliminate and reduce attempts at vote stuffing by people more interested in changing the current rating of a movie than giving their true opinion of it"...
even in the movie "The Interview" which as you know, might be one of the most affected ones by the problem, why bother with those special algorithms.

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You had a movie that was filmed in actual high school with real high school students and none of the typical Hollywood filming or editing style and which shows high school int he most gritty, unglamorous way possible. It is inevitable what some movie goers are gonna give it one star ratings solely for that purpose without paying nay real attention to the rest of the movie. A 6.7 rating for a film that was shot like this is actually a very high rating and shows the kind of effect it had on people.

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Actually Imdb tends to ignore 1 ratings and even 10 ratings.



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