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What's with the Chili hate

posted 10 years ago by leannetjuh
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In my opinion, he wasn't a bad guy at all. Yes, he lost his temper - but so would many people that were cheated on. To imply that he is prone to domestic violence based off soly that, seems a big leap to me. Thoughout the rest of the movie, Chili was actually quite considerate and maybe too forgiving towards his lady. Actually, it's quite possible he had the highest morale of them all.

I think it just shows that the opionion Jasmine held of Chili is easily transferred to us, the audience, even though there's no actual basis for it (apart from the fact of him not being too bright or high employed). In fact, their relationship was quite sweet, cheerful. Jasmine looked down on their relationship when in fact she should've done the opposite, because at least they were happy.

In fact, it was very ironic how near the end of the movie, Jasmine states that her sister always picks bad guys because she feels she doesn't deserve any better, even though Chili is a much better guy than the one she was married to. Except yes, he wasn't rich.

[–] FelaAKuti 10 years ago

getting pset doesnt mean you have the right to break my lamp or destroy my phone. Anyone who agrees with his behavior is a barbarian like he is

Dude was trash.

[–] PacificHeights 10 years ago

He was angry because his entire life was being destroyed by sociopath Jasmine. Chili was not a barbarian. He was the opposite of that - a loving, caring man. Was Ginger a barbarian for jumping into bed with the first man she saw that was a "step up" for her? Was she a barbarian for breaking Chili's heart and leaving him on the ride of the road like yesterday's trash?

[–] vicky_lc2001 (1907) 7 years ago

You seem overly upset and prone to name calling. Sorry but you're exhibiting the very behavior you detest. There are circumstances and Chili's behavior while gregarious was understandable given what he was going through.

[–] Insomniatic102 10 years ago

Please, he was terrible.

[–] fede_4488 10 years ago

Pretty much agree with you said. I didn't like how he reacted when he found out about the cheating, but he wasn't a bad guy. Just a rough one.

[–] PacificHeights 10 years ago

He wasn't a bad guy at all. He was a good guy. He was scared and under attack.

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[–] crissttigaldames 8 years ago

Exactly. Ginger dumping him was not an attack, though I do think she was a bit of a b*tch to him? I mean, she cheated on him and didn't even say sorry.

But Chili is pretty clearly prone to being abusive imo. He destroyed her phone and muttered a threat to her. It's really not acceptable behaviour at all.

[–] vicky_lc2001 (1907) 7 years ago

He didn't seem prone to being abusive to me, if anything Ginger might be prone to being abusive towards him as he loves her more and readily forgives her cheating.

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[–] bringbackberniew 9 years ago

But the beans can raise a stink.

[–] bringbackberniew 9 years ago

VICTIMS

and men as

PERPS

Perps needed. Enter Chili. He was a bit of a jerk who never knew when to shut up or walk away, but compared to Jasmine, he was nearly a saint.

[–] dullboy9000 9 years ago

VICTIMS

and men as

PERPS

Perps needed. Enter Chili. He was a bit of a jerk who never knew when to shut up or walk away, but compared to Jasmine, he was nearly a saint.

Completely agree.

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[–] bringbackberniew 9 years ago

Oblivious much?

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[–] bringbackberniew 9 years ago

tell us about

VICTIMS

like Jasmine again. Go ahead. It's always hilarious.

[–] Cine-Verite 9 years ago

Here's Chili - The saint of jerks

Good one! He's sitting in the pew next to the one with Jasmine, patron saint of neurotics.

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[–] BrokenBells 8 years ago

These are my thoughts from the other thread about Chili:

I’m not sure about Chili being potentially abusive – he definitely doesn’t have much impulse control, but he also seems to genuinely care about Ginger and it’s not obvious to me that he would actually hurt her. For example, during the argument when Jasmine wants them to keep quiet, Ginger tells him he’s a jerk when he’s drunk, but instead of getting angry he just kisses her and laughs it off.

Mostly I think his personality and behavior is meant to serve as a counterpoint to Jasmine, to emphasize her character traits by contrasting her with someone who’s the complete opposite. For Jasmine (due to both her personality and aspirations), her whole life about control and calculated behavior and maintaining a façade, and she panics when she can’t keep it up. Chili on the other hand is completely straightforward and honest about his feelings, he just acts on them and doesn’t care what others think, like when he starts crying in front of everyone at the grocery store.

I also think Woody is quite good at depicting the idea that you may not be able to get a partner who fulfills everything you wish for – for example, quite a few of his films (like Husbands and Wives and Vicky Cristina Barcelona) deals with people’s desire to get both passion and security from their partner, and the inherent conflict in this, and how they realize the need to compromise and “settle” for what they find most important. In this case, Chili was a bit rough around the edges and had a low-income job, but Ginger came to realize that his genuine care for and commitment to her was the most important thing.

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[–] NestOfNewts 7 years ago

I think that Chili was essentially a pretty good guy and was unfairly treated by Ginger during the course of the film. I didn't care for the character of Ginger at all and I found it a bit rich to be quite honest that she got to have Chili back at the end after she had cheated and if anything the film made it seem like she was doing him a favour by taking him back whereas in my opinion it should have been Ginger begging Chili to take her back.

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