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Why do people hate this film?


I only heard about because of another filmmaker's trashing of this film.

Then I read a review which said "Do not try to understand 'Leviathan'."

Based on all that, I think I'll avoid it.

(Not to mention that making a movie by attaching Go-Pros to everyone's heads is lame.)

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That's ridiculous. The fun of Leviathan is the way that you interpret/understand it. And the camerawork was refreshing and violent, totally in tone with the images shown. Lame is just a buzzword.

You should open yourself to this film, it's truly cinema without shackles.

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To call 'attaching GoPro cameras' to people for random shots and calling THAT "filmwork" should tell you everyhing.

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another filmmaker trash a film, its obviously a good reason to see the movie.

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It's excellent and refreshing. If you like experimental and/or visual films, it's a must-see.

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It's all about the experience of watching it. The way it makes you feel and think as your watching it, much like the way a piece of music or art effects you. No need to try to get all left brained about it and figure out "why" people like it. It's a very nichey movie that most people haven't even heard of so there's no sense in putting energy into trying to make people explain why they liked it. If you liked it you liked it, if you didn't you didn't. Personally it was one of my favorite movies of the past few years and it put me into a headspace that few if any movies ever have. Everyone I know personally really liked it. It's only on this site that I've seen such a negative reaction.

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"something fishy" I disagree with everything you said, but that pun made me laugh. Those critics that rate movies on objective quality overwhelmingly loved the movie. Read one of their reviews, they're getting paid for it.

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I'm afraid Cinema Guild probably came up with all the marketing decisions - you cannot blame a film for how it's marketed unless you're talking about Inland Empire or Upstream Color - I believe both of those were completely controlled by their makers.

Your statement "if a movie was good they wouldn't have to 'sell it' as something" is dangerously close to being naïve. While word of mouth is important, every film that gets distributed is "sold as something."

Mainly I wanted to point out what might be the most important scene in the film for people who are desperate to find a message of some sort in the film. When the guy falls asleep watching "Deadliest Catch," he's watching a show that attempts to romanticize or "punch up" the experience of being a commercial sea fisherman. There is scripted narration read by an actor (not a participant), a music score, and, though we can't see it here, we know that show is put together with the contemporary editing emphasis on making it as difficult as possible to lose interest and turn the channel. Leviathan has none of this. What's really great is the guy is so exhausted by his job he can't stay awake to watch a sexier rendition of it, meant to appeal to people who have never and will never experience it.

Anyway, I really liked it a great deal. My nine-year old son watched it, too, and was riveted. But I'll admit he's not "normal." He sat through 2001: A Space Odyssey twice in a row when he was five... at his request.

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I'm afraid Cinema Guild probably came up with all the marketing decisions - you cannot blame a film for how it's marketed unless you're talking about Inland Empire or Upstream Color - I believe both of those were completely controlled by their makers.

Yes, you can blame a filmakers for how the movie is marketed, for if they lost control of that they already lost anyway. And if cinema guild forces certain marketing then it MUST be disbanded as it is harmful to cinema as a whole.




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What makes it worth watching ... It's out there, how's that?

Thats terrible.
Cow dongs are also out there but that doesnt make them worth eating.

How can you tell whether or not it's worth watching until you've seen it?

Those are called reviews. you should look them up.

Why do you need help with that?

Probably because he values his time?

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azper - I just came across this thread after watching this Awesome movie and reading your posts can tell that you are an absolute phukktard. You need to stop posting your thoughts because you sound like a 5 year old who has been hit with a shovel

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Well, I guess it comes down to individual experience. If a movie is out there, you have to actually decide whether or not you want to watch it. Personally, I've never even considered eating a "cow dong", whatever that is. But if you feel the need to actually spell it out for others that doing so would be ill-advised, this must be rooted in some personal struggle in your past. ("Don't eat those cow dongs people. I tried one, and went right into protein shock," or something in that fashion. But as I said, I wouldn't know.)

Yes, you did decide not to eat cow dong, hence you are not eating it. That wasnt the point though. The point was that just because it is there does not mean its worth watching, not about whether you have to decide.


Take the word of someone as knowledgeable and open-minded about cinema as you or Azper? Hardly.

Im sure on this wide place called internet there are more reviews than of us two. The key to reviews is to find a reviewer with a taste similar to yours or couple of them. Reviewers come cheap - use that.

No, he's seen the movie before posting. So he had an unpleasant experience at the movies, and then went on to give other people sh!t about it. That's not valuing your time. Unless his actual purpose was fishing for confirmation. Which he has received. From you. How nice for him.

See, he turned his wasted time into at least something useful, you on the other hand are doing what here?



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No, I sincerely never even thought of it, as hard as that may be for you to believe. Just as I've never "decided" not to gurgle broken glass, take up archery or become a Nazi. It's never presented itself as a life option to me.

Yes you did. For this answer alone you already did. if you never thought of it you couldnt type the answer. the reason you do not realize it is because the decision was made long time ago and it is a reflex. Most likely this was result of genetic predetermined reaction to smells. humans do way more thinknig than you are aware of, and i do think you are not some exceptional abomination. if you are, i suggest you find competent doctors.

Your point was meaningless because you compared an absurd option to a viable one. For most people, eating "cow dong" does not enter the realm of decision-making. There is no decision to be made. We never find ourselves in a position where we would have to consider it. Watching a movie that you MIGHT not like, though, is not that far out, unless you're pathologically aware of your role as a satisfied consumer of prepackaged products. And even in that case ...

doing ANYTHING is a real of decision making with exception of genetically predetermined nerve reaction (raising hand in pain ect). people even take decision to breathe, but this decision is made at birth and never questioned afterwards and works subconciuosly. just like how you can choose to concciuosly hold your breath.

... finding a couple of reviewers with a similar taste to yours, and then regularly following their reviews, implies investing time - an amount of time, in fact, that very quickly surpasses the time it takes to actually SEE a 90 minute movie. And "on this wide place called internet" it's incredibly easy to find movies for free if you're not sure you want to pay to see them. (And of course to buy them when and if you decide they're worth buying.)

It takes time, nto as much time as constantly watching any random movie you can find and not liking it though. Your case might stand if you would watch one movie in a year or less. If you watch more (i watch at least 3 every week for example), watching movies randomly is setting yourself for dissapointment.

Before you and Azper made the whole thing ridiculous, I was trying to have an interesting, honest conversation about the movie Leviathan. Now I'm just responding to your posts because it's like shooting crippled fish in a bucket. But yeah, it's getting pathetic, so we can stop if you like.

No, what you did was provide ridiculous arguments that are illogical thinking they are somehow good enough and when you got called out on them isntead of admiting your mistake you went even more ridiculous in arguments with me. You are lucky this is IMDB and most people dont really care about stupid posts or you would be torn to pieces posting stuff like that.



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I loved the scene with the fish.

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WHAT IS THIS ?
This pile of crap just seems like someones family member just randomly jumped on a fishing boat trip with a bunch of amateur cameras capturing random clips getting in the way of people working with no story to tell, no proper lighting, no conclusion. seems like 70% was zoomed in closeups and 30% were wide shots, none what so ever being artistic or nice. If the excuse is its experimental, well then, i would call it a fail. seriously WTF!
I'm amazed of the rating it has on imdb. but then again seems lately imdbs ratings these days are B.S
this *beep* deserves atleast a 1.

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house-hold - Seriously, your opinion means nothing. STFU

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