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Beating their own drums?

posted 11 years ago by speedo58
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It seemed to me that every one of the interviewees had something to sell: a book, a psychological treatment, a diet, a workout method, a juicer, organic produce, etc. Very often when the pendulum has swung far enough over to the side of scaring us about the food we have, it begins to swing over to the other side to the much better food we could have, given enough money. I'm glad we have a little plot of land that we can grow a few vegetables, herbs, and spices on. They are frugal and much better tasting too.

[–] gbrookesn224 11 years ago

I did not think any one was trying to sell me anything other than good health.

[–] AllyWheels 11 years ago

Everybody's got something to sell. That's what makes the world turn my friend. These people are selling stuff that's good for us too so fair enough in my opinion.

[–] DrmWmn 11 years ago

They were asked to be a part of this documentary because of their knowledge and expertise, not because they have books and websites.

I watched this for FREE on Netflix and nowhere, not once, was it mentioned to BUY anything.

If the basic message is "Eat for nutrition, eat natural, and you will be healthier", that's for your benefit, not theirs.

If it was a "join our program and we will ship you prepackaged blah, blah, blah", then I would be skeptical.

All I know is after I eat processed food, I want more of it over an over again & feel lethargic and sick after having it.

<---- You know what it is

[–] grimmdogg23 11 years ago

You weren't paying much attention. They even talk about "marketing" at one point in the movie. They also talk about the subconscious at one point. Also, every time they were on screen talking a marquee was in the left hand corner with their name and their book/program/gimmick. If you put 2 and 2 together... it always equals 4. These people were trying to sell something. They may not have come out and said it. But, rest assured, they were trying to sell something whilst trying to convey a biased message. Albeit, a more healthy message.

A few things I found silly.

The cocaine to high fructose corn syrup comparison. If you know anything about the production of cocaine, you know that it is way worse than HFCS.

The heroin metaphor. Feeding a child sugary drinks is the same as putting a needle in their arms. REALLY? What a disservice to anyone that believes that drivel.

Juicing is better than eating the vegetable/fruit in it's entirety. FALSE.

There were several other false and misleading premises. But, I don't have time to go into them all. Maybe another time.

[–] puzzle_queen 11 years ago

Juicing carrots supposedly gets more out of the carrot. Never heard about anything else.

[–] dgates64 11 years ago

You don't have time to go into it all, because you don't know what the F you're talking about.

[–] LadyofAzul 9 years ago

I know this post is a year old, but for anyone who comes across this, to be frank:

I don't think anyone said it was better to juice your vegetables than to eat them. If you ever watched "Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead," it mentions how it's EASIER not necessarily BETTER. Two different words. It's easier because you can consume more vegetables in a 16oz cup of juice than to eat a big plate full of vegetables. He shows how many vegetables it takes to make one 16oz glass of juice; and I don't know about you, but I couldn't eat that whole plate of vegetables 4 times a day. So, juicing is easier. It takes less time to drink it than eating it and my body can absorbed the nutrients faster because it's in a liquid state rather than a solid. It takes less work and time.

For example, what do you think would be easier to digest and/or consume: 10 whole carrots or a 16oz cup of carrot juice?

[–] smoko 9 years ago

@LadyofAzul He shows how many vegetables it takes to make one 16oz glass of juice; and I don't know about you, but I couldn't eat that whole plate of vegetables 4 times a day.
A lot of that is thrown out as pulp, so you wouldn't be eating the whole plate.

This documentary has people telling us to eat as naturally as possible - then we're told to use a juicer? Seems like a mixed message to me.

[–] devonerd 9 years ago

They used the term natural as in their unprocessed state. Whether a carrot is solid or liquified makes no difference since it's still the same carrot; no preservatives have been added. And it's much easier to drink all those fruits and veggies than it would ever be to eat them.

[–] smoko 9 years ago

@devonerd And it's much easier to drink all those fruits and veggies than it would ever be to eat them.
I get it, but part of the reason is that you're throwing out so much of them as pulp.

[–] devonerd 9 years ago

I don't at least.I use the Nutribullet so there's no pulp extraction. It all stays in the cup. I agree juicers that do extract pulp is a waste of the produce.

[–] smoko 9 years ago

@devonerd I use the Nutribullet so there's no pulp extraction. It all stays in the cup.
Doesn't that mean that the NutriBullet is a blender? I like blenders, I use one myself (though it's not a NutriBullet).

It's this documentary's focus on juicers which bugs me.

[–] devonerd 9 years ago

In my experience a normal blender whips the produce too much and it comes out incredibly foamy. I really don't like that. With the Nutribullet there's no foam at all. The smaller cup also makes it easier to make one serving sizes and it's easier to clean. But it's generally the same principle so whatever tool you use to get your nutrients is fine, as long as you get them.

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[–] xecutionkrk 10 years ago

they didn't even try selling nutribullet ... what a backstabbing thread.

[–] The_Yellow_Wallpaper 10 years ago

I completely agree with you. Plus, these experts were so self-indulgent and self-praising. I couldn't stand it. I normally love documentaries like this but these people were intolerable.

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everyone deserves one good scare.

[–] Cablev94 8 years ago

Nope not trying to sell you anything. The reason why they had a title, book, or movie next to their name, is because they are respected people in the health community, and the addition of their title, book, or movie, next to their name is for you to be able to look up who that person is, and see if they really are credible source for healthy eating.

I wouldn't want a documentary to not tell me who the person talking is, and what they are known for, otherwise I'd just be listening to random people, say random things without me being able to look them up and see if they are credible.

Some of these people where doctors who have studied the science of how your body interacts with food. Some of which wrote a book, or made a movie about the subject.

Some of these people where just regular folks who went through this process, and actually learned a thing or two and just wanted to share their thoughts, ideas, and experiences, and also had their own movie or book to share that experience. Which gives me the opportunity to look them up and watch the movie or read that book, to see if they really are a credible source of knowledge of the subject.

This documentary was not trying to sell you a 300 dollar workout program. They where not trying to sell you a 300 dollar ship to your house meal plan. Or any other health supplements. All they said was to eat more veggies, which are cheap btw, and walk more, which again, is cheap. So how you got that they where trying to sell something is beyond me.

Also I spend under 7 dollars a day to eat 3 very healthy meals, not expensive at all to eat healthy, that is a myth my friend.

[–] hodie1 8 years ago

Mercola is a quack. There is already too much superstition and unproven theories that are blindly believed by people with more money than sense.