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Do you think after failing with their garbage DCEU movies they will go back and rape Middle-Earth some more ?

Do I have to root for those horrid DCEU movies to succeed just for that reason, so they stay away from M-E ?



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Hopefully not 'rape', as you suggest. However, there is probably a deadline for the start of filming of a new Middle-earth movie before the rights revert back to The Saul Zaents Company and Middle-earth Enterprises. We'll have to wait and see if Warners lets such a deadline pass.

"Hell hath no fury like that of the uninvolved." - T. Isabella

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"We'll have to wait and see if Warners lets such a deadline pass."

I truly hope so : let's not forget that WB didn't give us the LOTR Trilogy, New Line Cinema gave us that.

Warner Bros gave us The Travesty, I mean The Hobbit : so I'd rather not have anything from them ever again.

Just for curiosity's sake (and I hope the answer is no) are they allowed to make weird spin-offs with made up characters set in Middle-Earth ?

So from a legal point of view, can they do a hypothetical "Tauriel's Trilogy" or "Alfrid's Wacky Adventures" ?

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So from a legal point of view, can they do a hypothetical "Tauriel's Trilogy" or "Alfrid's Wacky Adventures" ?


I hope they don't remake a new LoTR with Tauriel in it trying to hit Gimli.

Abou Alfrid, I think too many Jackass movies have been made.

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Just for curiosity's sake (and I hope the answer is no) are they allowed to make weird spin-offs with made up characters set in Middle-Earth ?

So from a legal point of view, can they do a hypothetical "Tauriel's Trilogy" or "Alfrid's Wacky Adventures" ?


Theoretically, yes, as long as they don't infringe on material original to other works such as The Silmarillion or Unfinished Tales. Such projects would need to have a basis in The Hobbit or The Lord of the Rings. One example would be a movie (or movies) about Aragorn's early adventures adapted from "The Tale of Aragorn and Arwen" from LotR, Appendix A. A movie (or movies) about Dol Guldur's attacks on Lothlórien and the Woodland Realm and/or the Battle of Dale and Siege of Erebor in the last days of the War of the Ring could feature Tauriel in some manner.

"Hell hath no fury like that of the uninvolved." - T. Isabella

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"Theoretically, yes"

I'm very afraid...

"as long as they don't infringe on material original to other works such as The Silmarillion"

Phew, I feel better now : not that I wouldn't want more M-E movies but I just don't trust WB with it.

" Aragorn's early adventures adapted from "The Tale of Aragorn and Arwen" from LotR, Appendix A. A movie (or movies) about Dol Guldur's attacks on Lothlórien and the Woodland Realm and/or the Battle of Dale and Siege of Erebor in the last days of the War of the Ring "

Interesting : I'm not ready to accept Aragorn being played by another actor, I'm not so sure there is enough meat to chew in the cleansing of Dol Guldur but I like the battle of Erebor idea (and Dain is already CGI in The Hobbit so no problem there...), except for the Tauriel part but who cares ? fanedits will fix that again lol

Which one would YOU like to see ?

Oh, one last question : what about the hypothetical Dagor Dagorath movie ?

I don't even know if Tolkien wrote that or if it's fan-fiction, and ofc they can't use Turin Turambar (the prophecy was about him killing Morgoth, right ?) but we saw in The Hobbit that WB doesn't care about canon at all so...

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I've long been an advocate for a movie (or movies) about the journeys and errantries of Aragorn. A younger actor would have to play Aragorn the Ranger but Viggo could conceivably reprise the role of King Elessar book-ending the story as narrator (perhaps telling the tale to his own children).

I would say that the Final Battle would be out-of-bounds, coming mostly from The Silmarillion (and Untold Tales?). The same with the story of the children of Hurin. The film rights licensed through Middle-earth Enterprises only cover The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings (including the Appendices).

"Hell hath no fury like that of the uninvolved." - T. Isabella

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"Viggo could conceivably reprise the role of King Elessar book-ending the story as narrator"

Ooooooh if you put it like that... then I'm intrigued : so who could play young Aragorn ?

Would you include young Lord Denethor II too ?

His portrayal in the LOTR movies is one of the very few things I have a slight problem with: it would be nice to give some context for his bitterness and for the way he treats poor Faramir. The Book explains it, there IS a reason: he is not just an axxhole (you know better than me: what did you think of his portrayal in ROTK ?)

It may be difficult for me to accept another face for Aragorn but I think the positives may be more than the negatives (if WB doesn't ruin everything again...): one of the things I like about TH is seeing new locations and a hypothetical Aragorn movie might take us to Umbar and maybe a few more places in Gondor, like the coastal regions...

Damn it I'm all nerd-horny now : I gotta watch clips of Alfrid to cool down my excitement.

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Ooooooh if you put it like that... then I'm intrigued : so who could play young Aragorn ?

Would you include young Lord Denethor II too ?
Several possibilities come to mind for a younger Aragorn. Right now, Alexander Skarsgård (The Legend of Tarzan) is at the top of my list.

Denethor would be a must; he would have been about 45 years old when Aragorn (as Thorongil) left the service of Ecthelion II of Gondor. It was already established in The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers that Théoden was a young boy when Aragorn in disguise rode with his father King Thengel.

Aragorn's journeys to the distant East (Rhûn) and far South (Far Harad) would introduce us to cultures and people (both good and evil) we have never seen in a Middle-earth movie before. It's possible that Aragorn even met one or both of the Blue Wizards in his travels and Tolkien (in his conceit as the translator of the Red Book) never encountered the story.

"Hell hath no fury like that of the uninvolved." - T. Isabella

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"It's possible that Aragorn even met one or both of the Blue Wizards in his travels"

OMG OMG OMG .... Nerd-Gasm !!!!!

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Do I sense...sarcasm? Or are you genuinely interested in that possibility? It's a remote one in any case, especially since there is so little about the Blue Wizards that could be used. There are some possible workarounds: "I have had many names, but here I am known as ______."

"Hell hath no fury like that of the uninvolved." - T. Isabella

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I'm a huuuge Middle Earth fan but I'm 100% certain that I won't give them my money ever again. It's over.

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Damn straight, but fan-edits are free and so are illegal downloads : it's the ONLY good thing about cinema these days...

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they didn't rape anything for me. While The Hobbit films weren't as good as LOTR I still enjoyed them. I would love to see more films in this world

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