Smaug or balrog?


I'm sure this has been talked about but who would win in a battle? Smaug was done well for the most part but I always liked the balrog just because it's so unique to middle earth. Could Smaug have killed the balrog? Would that have made him Smaug the white? 😄

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Neither Smaug nor the Balrog is going to be hurt much by fire, so it's going to come down to physical combat. To me, it seems too close to call!

EDIT: Upon reflection, I might give the fight to Smaug, especially in Jackson's movie-verse. He's so huge.

"Hell hath no fury like that of the uninvolved." - T. Isabella

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I'm going to assume that they're both thoroughly fireproof. So if you take the fire off the board, I doubt the balrog's whip can get through Smaug's armor plating, but since Gandalf's sword could hurt the balrog then I'm going to assume that Smaug's fangs and claws can hurt it worse.

Advantage, Smaug!




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The Balrog of Moria is also described as having a sword. Of course, Smaug's armor is very tough and the Balrog might have his work cut out for him in finding and striking the weak spot on the dragon's chest.

"Hell hath no fury like that of the uninvolved." - T. Isabella

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Good point, but I also think Smaug has the advantage of flying. It wouldn't be easy for the Balrog to hurt Smaug.

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Yes; and let's avoid the subject of 'Balrog Wings: Real or Metaphorical?'.

"Hell hath no fury like that of the uninvolved." - T. Isabella

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Since we have two examples of two balrgos falling off cliffs, like the one in Gondolin and the one in Moria, it looks likes they are not much wings for flying.

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And if you go by the size of the dragon and balrog in the movies, the dragon is about 100x larger and heavier! Which is a bit silly, since that means the thing a size of a skyscraper can fly and the much smaller thing can't, but there we are.

Smaug has all the advantages.



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Balrog's wings were more like an accessory than a flying gear. It's wings shouldn't be a problem since it was only added for the movies.

The might of Elrond is in wisdom not in weapons, it is said.

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Tolkien does write of Balrog wings, but in a way that suggests that they might only be things of smoke and shadow rather than real, physical wings.

"Hell hath no fury like that of the uninvolved." - T. Isabella

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In the films, Smaug. He’s larger and more powerful.

In the books, the Balrog’s physical and mystical abilities (he breaks one of Gandalf’s spells) are too ill-defined to say how he’d compete against Smaug.

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