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Ugh, I hate the end with a PASSION!


Massive spoiler alert! I'm on my phone and forgot how to hide it, so don't continue reading if you haven't seen the last episode of season 3 yet.
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I hate how the friendship between Peter and Roman ended - with the result of one dead and the other a beast for ever. Their friendship was one of the best things for me in this show.

I hate how everyone just freaking dies. OMG, there wasn't another solution? The death count of most major characters is just insane and upsetting. Their end doesn't leave me with a satisfied feeling at all.

I am happy for Shelly, if she is happy. But with a fugitive who's twice her age and a baby that might turn out dangerous? Yikes.

I could go on and on, but I'm exhausted from fuming over this horrible end. I hope this crap was just a dream. Or someone comes and turns back time. I think I have to create a satisfying end for this in my head just for piece of mind. There are possibly people out there who liked it as it is, but I'm sure the majority feels like I do. Unfortunately I have to wait till my friends finish watching it and I have nobody to bitch about it, hence my post. Now excuse me while I go into a corner crying...

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*peace of mind ... I just noticed my typo, definitely a result of me being too distraught :(

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I feel exactly like you feel. Actually I ended up disliking Peter immensely, and felt sorry for Roman getting pulled in other people's stupidity.

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I feel so sad for Roman, too!! And who is Peter to judge him, omg!! He himself brought the whole *beep* load down on them by sticking with the bunch of criminals in the first place, and then getting his cousin's fiancé killed. On purpose. And hiding the fact because he couldn't face up to the truth. But when Roman did the same thing (but lesser evil) Peter is suddenly above all sin??? WTF .. Well, I hope he's gonna be a miserable, lonely wolf...

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the endings for all (minus Shelley) were horrible/tragic but i didn't hate that (i didn't love it either). what i HATED is the freaking tired last second "GOTCHA!" scene of the bat/serpent thingie splashing out of the water. completely stupid and unnecessary. why can't an ending just have a completely wrapped up ending? they knew this was the SERIES finale. just end it. no little "wink wink" surprise endings.

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Ofcourse they do this. In some years they'll make a movie with Nadia all grown up and that monster-thingy I forgot the name of (even though I just binge-watched the entire season..)

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Lol that's what I thought. Like the typical B horror movie ending to pave the way for a cheesy sequel.

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Sweet Lord, it was like Dexter all over again!! 😢

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Lol. As soon as they zoomed into the pond I was like oh jeez here it comes. So stupid.

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I totally hated that too! It was so cheesy! They didn't need it. If they want to revive the series they'll do so. Everyone can be brought back to life. It's "Hemlock Grove"! Anything and everything is possible. I will admit that it was literally overkill. Everyone was fine pretty much until...everyone gets killed over the course of two days(over the weekend?) or something. Pretty funny actually.

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Yeah, I agree. I followed this series since the beginning. Season one was supernatural fun, season 2 felt like a big build up for something insane that was coming, but season three just didn't deliver. Olivia's plot of going insane and dying from her disease was about the only thing that kept me watching, because that was a lot of fun, but ended very predictably.

There really wasn't even anything too horror-genre about S3 at all, it was mainly just Destiny's boyfriend making a mistake that Peter had to deal with the whole time and led to the horrible finale. Roman hardly did anything with being a Upir, when season to made it such a big deal that he was trying to be human only to end up realizing he was better as a monster. Peter being a werewolf barely played into the plot at all, except now he's stuck as one forever. Miranda was basically just there to be killed by what could have been a cool villain (kinda reminded me of the Mayor from Buffy S3, all overly nice but still evil as all hell) who in turn was just thrown away as quickly as possible. Even Pryce, who had been so mysterious and interesting, was just written off as fast as he could be.

Really, this was Shelly's conclusion, and even that felt too open-ended when they made it clear that this was the final time we'd see any of the characters. It was all just so unsatisfying. The show could have went a hundred different ways but they just decided to make it "the Not order of the dragon vs. the Gypsy mafia," or whatever they were, I honestly stopped paying attention and struggled to make it through to the end. All of that could have been wrapped up in two episodes, not a whole season, especially since it was the last.

I don't know, it all left me feeling empty. I'm a horror guy, I love the supernatural elements of shows, and the idea of a werewolf teaming up with a vampire (or, Upir) and having to take on something else evil is what drew me to this in the first place. I was into Being Human for the same reason. I just didn't love it, and hate is a strong word, but I definitely wouldn't watch it all again. Maybe the first season if I really missed it, but I could pass on 2 and 3. Especially 3.

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The other thing (besides the Peter killing Roman mess)is Dr. Spivak. I mean he's this big bad manta-ray thingy, and Roman and Peter kill him in like 5 uneventful minutes? Lame.

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Well, because of the ending I changed the rating from good 7 to very stretched 6. It was so utterly disappointing and lazy, plus, as someone mentioned before, the open ending and the lake scene - so cliched! Still can't get over it, to be fair.

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I hate it when writers leave so many loose ends and "forget" plots in order to put many different subplots and creating confusion and holes.

First of all, Nadia. The baby who can kill with her mind, not even tries to defend herself against the reptilian doctor who by the way, is a gigantic flying dragon who can disguise himself into an ordinary man.

Why the doctor wants Nadia? She is supposed to be special, right? So he wants just to eat her? For what? He could have any baby. I don't remember him mentioning any specific gain he will have from eating her or feeding her to the babies.

For me it was out of the blue that the problem with Andreas and Milan was a sex tape. He pulled a major scam to the Croatians and the writers thought to put a sex tape in the mix with some girl we don't even know if it's a relative to
Milan's, to piss him off.

Dr Pryce. The man who dedicated his life to the Godfrey's and the upirs, didn't even try to cure Olivia. Yes he hates her but he is a scientist and Olivia was the perfect test subject. He wouldn't care if he caused more pain and damage to her.

Since the writers decided that Roman would kill Destiny, it was inevitable for Peter to kill him. This is the only logical thing in the ending.

Olivia. She gets sick, we see in the mirror she looks like a corpse but after that second, she is OK. Thank God Famke Janssen nailed the part, as she always does. She was superb in her dying scene.

Then Shelley. She held this great funeral for DrPryce but nothing for Roman? She loved her brother. They only had a fight at some point. And what was that about the "bag full of money"? Shelley and later Nadia, are the only heirs to the Godfrey fortune. Did she gave away all this fortune? What?

Don't let me start with the final scene. I was waiting to see Peter as a wolf saying his goodbyes to Nadia, but no, they had to put the little creature to pop out of the water, even though they knew it was the series finale. Cheap!

I love shows like Hemlock Grove but they always suck at the end. Just like True blood's "Little house on the prairie" ending,




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Agreed. As to why that super monster Dr. S needed the baby: to reproduce, as nasty as it sounds. She was special because of the long line of vampires she came from (we have seen her special powers) and S needed her eggs (someone mentioned, maby it was Dr. Pryce, that babies have the most ova) I don't wanna guess how he harvested and fertilized them. Those lil swimming monster fishies are her and S's offspring. Yikes ...

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My hypothesis was that cross-breeding with an Upir would protect the snake people from Upir venom, but that was blown out of the water (literally) by Peter using Roman's venom to kill all (...err most) of the snake babies.

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Season three played out like an epic tragedy in the old Greek Tragedy sense.

In ancient Greece the definition of a Tragic Play was that the protagonist (or in this case protagonists) died. A Comic Play was simply that the protagonist lived! Same terrible things could happen along the way from Act I to the end but if the lead was alive then it was a comedy. Shakespeare used this template for many of his plays. Example: "Romeo and Juliet" was not a romance or comedy but a tragedy as the leads were dead at the end.

"Hemlock Grove" was indeed then a Greek tragedy. (Peter can be considered dead to the world as he is forever a wolf.)

The only "Happy ending" was for Shelley and Nadia, but who knows what the future holds especially since one of the evil species of flying fish people\serpents survived? That bit of BS was the only sour note and completely modern in it's "The end is not really the end". Imagine if at the end of "Romeo and Juliet" we suddenly saw Juliet's arm raise ever so slightly... Ending\No ending. My opinion? Crap ending.

Better than an open ending though. We got resolution on all fronts (flying fish thing aside). No character loose ends.

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What disturbed me the most was the unsatisfactory dissolution of Peter and Roman's friendship, the one thing I hoped would grow into something very strong in a fourth season :'(

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That was never going to happen with roman keeping the fact he raped and fathered a baby with his sister, peters girlfriend.

fact: 87.3% of IMDB users belong to the secret society of cynics.

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He didn't rape her - his mother raped both of them because she orchestrated this!

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I also found the end *beep* and sloppy. The director had such a great material to even create a fourth season, that was just wasted in Chango nonsense and Olivia's delusions....
The story with Spivak finished ridiculously and Pryce's death was meaningless, I kinda liked him, after all his childhood flash backs and his psycho despotic father; it kinda explained how he grew up to be the immoral and brilliant scientist he were.
I am totally disappointed and frustrated about Roman's death and Peter's choice to believe in all the *beep* he heard. They were both so different and yet so much alike. I agree they had both do *beep* things and according to the karma laws, they had to pay for all the misery and harm they had made, BUT it was a *beep* ending killing each other.
Hemlock Grove: a series with so much potential going to waste….
P.S: Olivia’s death was epic.

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I think I have to create a satisfying end for this in my head just for piece of mind.


Yeah haha I do that sometimes too. What are your thoughts on this?

But I disagree that Roman did the same as Peter - Roman killed for no good reason except to try to cover up. What pisses me off though is that it is TOTALLY out of character for him. He is a kind soul and also very restrained - But he just punches and kills her for no reason? That death was so *beep* random. They COULD have made it work if Roman had something to do with it and she was going to implicate him. But like this?

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My end goes like this: Peter's and Roman's friendship prevails and they'll go fishing for that stupid leftover stingray-ish monster. :) Ans nobody dies, because they'll all be back for season 4 ^.^ lol

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